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Pitch Pine Trees
« on: January 08, 2021, 08:26:14 PM »
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Question for the scenery wizards out there, has anyone come across an effective way of easily modelling Pitch Pine? The area I model although it isn't the Pine Barrens still has a considerable mix of it and I can't seem to find a good way of making them.
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Re: Pitch Pine Trees
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2021, 08:38:54 PM »
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Welcome to our world, if you’re looking to model a particular pine tree.  Right, @Philip H?

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Re: Pitch Pine Trees
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2021, 08:50:23 PM »
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Exactly @davefoxx. Exactly.
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Re: Pitch Pine Trees
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2021, 07:23:21 AM »
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Watch out for the Jersey Devil if you're in the Pine Barrens.

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Re: Pitch Pine Trees
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2021, 01:47:35 PM »
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IIRC, Pitch pines have a sparse but heavy branch structure and long needle, so a static grass on armature approach might be best.  The armature could be Super Tree, but I think wire with a texture will give you a better look.  TRW member 'grove den' has a good primer on the technique (https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=34967.0) and the examples he has on his website (https://mbbgroveden.com/) are great studies.
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Re: Pitch Pine Trees
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2021, 04:01:52 PM »
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something like these 2 pinetrees?
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Re: Pitch Pine Trees
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2021, 05:17:53 PM »
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Damn, dude.  Seriously, how do you do it?  You are hands down the best tree modeler that I've ever seen.

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Re: Pitch Pine Trees
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2021, 11:40:33 PM »
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something like these 2 pinetrees?

Essentially like the tree on the left but bigger yeah.  I've gotta comb through your thread again.
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Re: Pitch Pine Trees
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2021, 06:06:05 PM »
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Just did some searching for "Pitch Pine"...
Not growing overhere at all. but it seems to have the same "qualities"as the Pinus sylvestris overhere.
One ove the features of this pitch pine compare to the P . sylv. is the "open" structure ot the crown of the tree. You can see, it is obviously to see that the tree is growing under dry conditions.
To immitate/to modell this tree I think an approach wit long and smaller fibres  added with a electrost. appl. could be usefull!
The trick will be what kind of fibres, : longer12 or 6 mm , shorter ones 2mm,  which one first....the longer ones? and how to add,  at the end, the "glue"on the ends of the longer fibres to add the smaller "needles"( 1mm or even 0,5 mm from Mini Natur/Silhouette) like small mini "tuffts of gras"
It should be  something that makes small drops/pearls of glue in which some 1 mm fibres will stick together....
Easy to write, I know,....but you could give it a try...may be after 12-15 trees ?
Actualy that number is peanuts comparing the trees in a real forrest and made within a very short period of time: per tree about 2 hours.....in real: 20-30 years! :D
the attached tree is about 5-6 cm= 2 1/2 inch . It has to look like a pine tree that is growing in/on a rock....somewhere in Switserland....

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Re: Pitch Pine Trees
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2021, 10:32:06 PM »
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Well to be fair though for my purpose I just need like 5-6 just to represent that the forests in the area I model aren't all spindly deciduous trees. Will definitely try some with your technique when I can leave my house and grab some of the materials.
-Al