Author Topic: Ballasting n scale unitrack- how to get the ballast to stay between the sleepers  (Read 2838 times)

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nkalanaga

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At least in the US, "standard mortar sand", from a masonry supply or big-box home improvement store, is very close to N scale size.  If you can find a color you like, or plant to paint the track after ballasting, it's a lot cheaper than buying ballast.

If I'd know than 20 years ago, I'd have used it for my MILW branch.  But I found out after buying the ballast for it.  The GN/BN mainline needed a different color, so had t use commercial ballast.
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The problem is that sand granules are quite often shiny (because they're faceted), not matte like crushed stone.

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DKS:  That could be a problem in some areas.

The stuff we get here in eastern Kentucky is matte, because it is crushed stone.  There's very little sand here, just limestone, so it comes from the same quarries as the local gravel and larger stuff.  The common mortar sand is yellowish, unlike the off-white bulk limestone, but it's still locally crushed.

In Pasco, WA, the local sand is basically "ground up Rocky Mountains and local basalt", ground by the Ice Age Missoula floods, and deposited in the Pasco Basin.  It hasn't had time to be rounded, so is also mostly matte.  It's a medium brownish-gray, kind of an odd color, really, because of the iron content.  Not iron in the rocks, but actual "iron filings", that can be pulled out with a magnet.  Not recommended for ballast, but usable for other scenery, as long as it's solidly glued down.  The "iron filings" tend to give the sand a slightly rusty tinge.  I suspect they came from the local basalt, which also acquires a brownish crust after long weathering.

Those are the only two areas where I have much experience with the sand.
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Thank you everyone for you help.  Especially  Point353.  I did get them to ship me some ballast sand- the Nat Stone Ballast #50 Blended.  Its not a bad match for the ballast I was using (and will continue to use on the outside of the rails) from Woodland scenic.

Rather than floating like the walnut shell pieces of WS, it works perfectly- once I get it between the ties with a careful brushing, wet it and add the glue it stays where I put it.  The results look good to my eyes.  Not up to others amazing standards, but it looks pretty good.

Thanks again for your help

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Go to this link:

https://web.archive.org/web/20151002184832/http://home.comcast.net/~j.sing/Peavine_Layout_Overview.html

And then scroll down to:  "  Kato Unitrack:  Painted, then ballasted  "

Should be of help, I trust.





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Yay John!  Welcome back.   Probably the first person to do this and document it properly like what...10 years ago?    Whoops, make that 15 now that I read the date...!

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The secret to ballasting Unitrack is to hate yourself.

I have been ballasting on my MG module:
https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=49374.msg662532#msg662532
https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=49374.135

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Here's a newer picture:
Josh Surkosky

Here's a Clerihew about Ed. K.

Ed Kapucinski
Every night, he plants a new tree.
But mention his law
and you've pulled your last straw!

Alternate version:
Ed Kapucinski
Every night, he plants a new tree.
He asks excitedly "Did you say Ménage à Trois?"
No, I said "Ed's Law."