Question about CNJ Baldwin double-ender livery

[Sharky_McSharknose]

I'm having trouble finding pictures of the CNJ Baldwin double-enders in the tangerine/blue livery that will answer my question, which is this: Were the trucks and fuel tank painted blue or black? A follow-up would be, did it depend on the road number? Of the six CNJ had, no. 2000-2002 had portholes and additional red lining, while 2003-2005 did not have portholes or red lining.

[glakedylan]

looks blue here:


but here it looks black:

(but then it is a drawing rather than a photo)

you might want to go with a dark blue that could like somewhat like either?

that's all i can find online

sincerely
Gary

fixed img tags -gfh

[Tristan Ashcroft]

(but then it is a drawing rather than a photo)

is that foreground foliage just lichen?

[DKS]

I know some are black and white, but perhaps they can still help with details.

[DKS]

One more...

[DKS]

And I found this one of CNJ 2000 in my collection.

[Sharky_McSharknose]

It looks to me like the double-ended Babyfaces at least started off with blue underframes. It's a bit tough to tell on later photos of the orange/blue units if the underframes were repainted black or not under all that dirt, but I don't think anyone but the most hardcore CNJ fan would mind if I painted a model of these with a blue underframe.

Thank you all for the photos.

[Mark5]

Sharky,

That first photo sure looks blue. Hard to argue with that kind of evidence. 

[Angus Shops]

Except everything other than the orange parts and the men’s faces look kind of blue...

[C855B]

Except everything other than the orange parts and the men’s faces look kind of blue...

I'm suspicious of that first photo, which is from Wikimedia. It has a few tint artifacts - the faces, particularly - that make me think it's been artificially colored. David's photo of #2000 is the best color reference of the bunch, with the other color shots suffering from hue shifts due to age.

[Mark5]

I'm suspicious of that first photo, which is from Wikimedia. It has a few tint artifacts - the faces, particularly - that make me think it's been artificially colored. David's photo of #2000 is the best color reference of the bunch, with the other color shots suffering from hue shifts due to age.

You have a point.

On this photo, the trucks and fuel tanks etc appear to be the same color as the lower part of the carbody (whatever color that is):

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From: http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/tr_cnj2001.jpg

[Chris333]

Well you know Grimy Black has a heavy blue tint to it. Just use Grimy Black. Or mix navy blue and dark brown for your own grimy black.

[peteski]

I agree that this photo seems to be severely color shifted towards blue.



I corrected the colors, but now the yellow seems quite intense. And the faces also look way to bold. Maybe this is a colorized photo that ended up being blue-shifted too?

[Point353]

I corrected the colors, but now the yellow seems quite intense.

The "yellow" is supposed to be tangerine/orange.

[DKS]

This ought to provide a reasonably accurate representation of the tangerine and blue. Note that the Fs all appear to have black trucks and fuel tanks, FWIW.

I corrected the colors, but now the yellow seems quite intense. And the faces also look way to bold. Maybe this is a colorized photo that ended up being blue-shifted too?

What did you use as a reference for color-correction? Because the sky turned yellow, too...

I took a crack at it and here's what I got...



Based on what I had to do, I suspect this was probably colorized and then digitally manipulated.