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Re: Mill Creek HOn30
« Reply #465 on: July 30, 2020, 12:00:38 PM »
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Aren't the rear two axles on the prototype tender a pivoting truck?  How are you going to get that tender through a curve if it's a rigidly mounted three-axle tender?  Or is the plan to 3D print the tender frame and cut the truck sideframes off for the rear two axles?

If the wheelbase is short enough, it ought to work OK.
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Re: Mill Creek HOn30
« Reply #466 on: July 30, 2020, 12:18:32 PM »
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About the rigid tender. The Atlas 2-6-0 has 4 axles on 2 trucks and none of them pivot. I remember an old Tyco HO scale steam loco that was powered by the tender, it has stiff trucks as well.

About the cab front, what?  The cab front is flat. The EBT loco had a different taller cab without the curvy roof, but the D&RG drawings show the same roof as the proto photos.

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Re: Mill Creek HOn30
« Reply #467 on: July 30, 2020, 12:47:15 PM »
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Well, I guess my point is what makes you think it is rigidly mounted?  Do you have detailed plans that confirm that is rigidly mounted?  The picture you posted clearly has daylight peeking through over the sideframe.

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Re: Mill Creek HOn30
« Reply #468 on: July 30, 2020, 12:53:27 PM »
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Oh no in real life it has a pivot  :)

In fake life though it will be easier to keep it stiff.

This is the Atlas 2-6-0:
http://www.spookshow.net/loco/atlas260.html
The tender trucks are mounted solid to the side of the tender, no bolsters at all.

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Re: Mill Creek HOn30
« Reply #469 on: July 30, 2020, 01:03:14 PM »
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About the cab front, what?  The cab front is flat. The EBT loco had a different taller cab without the curvy roof, but the D&RG drawings show the same roof as the proto photos.


Yeah, I was talking about the #1, not the #6.  The #6 clearly looks flat though I thought the #1 looked like it might be angled.

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Re: Mill Creek HOn30
« Reply #470 on: August 01, 2020, 07:50:06 PM »
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Re: Mill Creek HOn30
« Reply #471 on: August 01, 2020, 08:49:33 PM »
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About the rigid tender. The Atlas 2-6-0 has 4 axles on 2 trucks and none of them pivot. I remember an old Tyco HO scale steam loco that was powered by the tender, it has stiff trucks as well.

About the cab front, what?  The cab front is flat. The EBT loco had a different taller cab without the curvy roof, but the D&RG drawings show the same roof as the proto photos.


i remember a Bachmann 2-8-0 in HO that was tender driven. the powered wheels were fixed -- 1 axle per truck -- and IIRC the truck sides were somewhat enlarged so they could pivot with the other axle per truck. i think it was the middle two axles that were fixed and powered. anyway, other than the atlas/stewart diesels it was the best running and best pulling locomotives in that day (later '70s and early 80's). thanks Chris for stirring those memories. they were some good times!


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Re: Mill Creek HOn30
« Reply #472 on: August 01, 2020, 09:51:41 PM »
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Here is that old Tyco 2-8-0:
http://tycotrain.tripod.com/steamengines/id2.html

I forget what road name I had  :)

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Re: Mill Creek HOn30
« Reply #473 on: August 02, 2020, 09:59:01 AM »
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Re: Mill Creek HOn30
« Reply #474 on: August 02, 2020, 10:24:14 AM »
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In fake life though it will be easier to keep it stiff.

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