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The Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire (UK)
« on: June 03, 2020, 10:15:34 AM »
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My wife and I enjoy an annual holiday in the Forest of Dean. We have been there almost every year since the year 2000. During that time we have enjoyed exploring a number of the different railway routes in the forest and have begun to realise just how complex a network of tramways supported the standard gauge railways which themselves had replaced much earlier tramways. I hope this thread will be of interest to some.

This is the first of a series of posts about the forest and its railways and tramways and focusses on Lydney Harbour and its transport links, particularly rail and tramway/tramroad. ...

Recently a book has been published by the Lightmoor Press which is the fifth in a series by Ian Pope et al. The series is about the Severn and Wye Joint Railway in the Forest of Dean. The fifth book focusses on Lydney Harbour and Docks.

https://rogerfarnworth.wordpress.com/2017/09/26/lydney-harbour

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...In the late 18th and early 19th centuries, a network of horse-drawn tramroads developed in the Forest of Dean, to transport coal and ironstone to the local ironworks, and, following the development of docks on the Severn at Bullo Pill and Lydney, to ship coal and other Forest products to markets further afield. With the introduction of railways to the Forest, beginning in the mid-nineteenth century, the tramroads were progressively superseded, in places physically overlaid, by the new transport system, though some continued as feeders to the railways well into the 20th Century. Many traces of the old tramroads remain, sometimes as footpaths following a trackbed, or as remains: stone sleeper blocks, earthworks, bridges and other structures...

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Re: The Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire (UK)
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2020, 10:10:58 AM »
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Prior to the introduction of standard gauge railways in the Forest of Dean there was an extensive network of tramways or tramroads. These tramways were of a variety of gauges from 3ft 6in to 4ft. One of these was the Severn and Wye Tramroad. This post details the various branch and feeder tramways associated with this line. The tramway was replaced by the Severn and Wye Joint Railway. ...

https://rogerfarnworth.wordpress.com/2017/09/28/the-branch-tramways-and-sidings-of-the-severn-and-wye-tramroad

There were 12 branch tramroads off the Severn and Wye Tramroad. Many of these remained as feeder routes to the Severn and Wye Joint Railway in the 19th Century.

The 12 include the Mirystock-Lydbrook-Bishopswood tramroad and the privately owned Oakwood and Dyke’s tramroad branches. In addition scores of sidings and short branches served particular mines, quarries and works. Traces of most of the branches remain..

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Re: The Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire (UK)
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2020, 07:52:58 PM »
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Nice stuff.
There are certainly worse hobbies than roaming free. A shame society is so clouded these days many don't get the opportunity,
cheers dave

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Re: The Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire (UK)
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2020, 11:14:04 AM »
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Thanks Dave

This is the next in the series. ....

Parkend in the Forest of Dean is currently the terminus of a preservation line, the Dean Forest Railway (http://www.deanforestrailway.co.uk). Historically it was a small through station on the Severn and Wye Joint Railway with a short branch to transhipment wharfs that allowed tramways to transfer good to the main line. Further back still it was the centre of some major forest industries which were heavily served by tramways. The first image on the blog below is a map of the tramways at Parkend in its prime as an industrial centre in the Forest.

https://rogerfarnworth.wordpress.com/2017/09/29/parkend-forest-of-dean

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Re: The Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire (UK)
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2020, 08:37:09 AM »
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There was a significant network of tramroads close to Parkend in the Forest of Dean.

https://rogerfarnworth.wordpress.com/2017/10/02/oakwood-and-dikes-tramways

Parkend had quite a concentration of tramways associated with local collieries and iron works as well as hosting the terminus of the Oakwood Tramway at Marsh Sidings. The extract from the 1880s OS Map shows them clearly.................

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Re: The Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire (UK)
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2020, 12:07:22 PM »
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Moseley Green Tramways

In 2017, my wife and I stayed in Moseley Green. We followed up on the local tramways. The featured picture in the linked post does not come from the Forest but from Little Eaton Plateway in the Midlands. It does show the kind of traffic which used these early tramroads.

https://rogerfarnworth.wordpress.com/2017/09/27/moseley-green-tramways

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Re: The Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire (UK)
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2020, 12:08:10 PM »
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Re: The Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire (UK)
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2020, 12:09:16 PM »
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The Forest of Dean Tramway was a major innovation in its day. Haie Hill Tunnel, which was built for it in the very early 19th Century, was for a short while the longest tunnel in the world. It was also one of the earliest tunnels built.

The tramway linked significant industrial concerns in the Forest of Dean with the Severn Estuary at Bullo Pill. The owners of the tramway were also behind the first serious attempt to tunnel under the Estuary.

https://rogerfarnworth.wordpress.com/2018/03/13/bullo-pill-and-the-forest-of-dean-tramway

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Re: The Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire (UK)
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2020, 04:06:47 PM »
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A visit in 2018 to the Forest of Dean promoted some reading and reflection on Cannop Colliery. This post is the result of those reflections:

http://rogerfarnworth.com/2018/08/31/cannop-colliery

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My wife and I were in the Forest of Dean on 30th August 2018 and visited a small garden centre that we have been to many times before - the Pigmy Pynetum. Later in the day I was reading an older copy of "The New Regard" - Number 23 from 2009. The first article in that edition of the magazine was about Cannop Colliery and was written by Ian Pope. The colliery was just north of the location of the garden centre.


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Re: The Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire (UK)
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2020, 05:48:05 AM »
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Recently, I began researching some of the tramways/tramroads in the valleys of South Wales. The first of these that I have looked at is the Penydarren Tramroad.

While I was looking at the website of the Industrial Railway Society (https://www.irsociety.co.uk) I came across a story which related to the Forest if Dean and, in particular, the Severn & Wye Railway & Canal Company.

The link below highlights the story of what appears to have been the research necessary before purchasing the first steam locomotive the Forest of Dean. It also pints to what could have been a far earlier introduction of steam traction into the Forest.

http://rogerfarnworth.com/2019/02/08/a-first-steam-locomotive-for-the-severn-and-wye-tramway

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Re: The Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire (UK)
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2020, 07:56:51 AM »
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The industrial history of the Forest of Dean is such that the intensity of activity was high throughout the 19th century and the first half of the 20th century. Innovation was rife and nowhere was this more true than in its transport infrastructure.

In, what history will ultimately regard as, a very short period of time, tramroads were built and became the dominant form of transport. They waned and were replaced by broad gauge railways which in turn lost out to what was the dominant but probably inferior standard-gauge. For a time, all were active in the Forest at once. ....

http://rogerfarnworth.com/2019/09/15/different-railway-gauges-in-operation-the-forest-of-dean

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The original gauge was the track-gauge used by the Severn and Wye Tramroad. Rails were cast iron and each section was around 1 metre in length. They were held in place not by timber sleepers but by stone blocks placed on the line of the rails. The gauge (or spacing between the two rails) was 3ft 6ins. This gauge was used by many of the branch tramways in the forest.

When the Severn and Wye became a Railway rather than a Tramroad the standard gauge for the Great Western Railway was what we now call ‘broad-gauge’ – 7 ft 1⁄4 in (2,140 mm)....

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Re: The Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire (UK)
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2020, 07:57:56 AM »
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The Guardian carried an article on 31st August 2019 about old rail routes being used as cycleways. It suggested the 10 best routes where old railway formations are in use as cycleways. Theirs is not the only list of routes which seeks to provide a "Top Ten."

I have pulled together a few examples in the linked post below. I'd like to add at least one which does not feature in the top ten lists, and that is the Forest of Dean.

http://rogerfarnworth.com/2019/09/13/railways-and-cycleways-no-1-a-top-ten

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...Neither of the lists above includes the Forest of Dean, an area that I love. The offer to cyclists and walkers in that Forest of Dean is superb. Most of the designated cycleways are on the formation of the extensive network of former railway lines which served the various former heavy industries of the Forest. A number of website highlight what is available.

Cycling or walking along abandoned railways is a wonderful way to access the countryside in the UK...

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Re: The Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire (UK)
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2020, 04:37:48 PM »
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The industrial history of the Forest of Dean is such that the intensity of activity was high throughout the 19th century and the first half of the 20th century. Innovation was rife and nowhere was this more true than in its transport infrastructure.

In, what history will ultimately regard as, a very short period of time, tramroads were built and became the dominant form of transport. They waned and were replaced by broad gauge railways which in turn lost out to what was the dominant but probably inferior standard-gauge. For a time, all were active in the Forest at once. ....

http://rogerfarnworth.com/2019/09/15/different-railway-gauges-in-operation-the-forest-of-dean

The original gauge was the track-gauge used by the Severn and Wye Tramroad. Rails were cast iron and each section was around 1 metre in length. They were held in place not by timber sleepers but by stone blocks placed on the line of the rails. The gauge (or spacing between the two rails) was 3ft 6ins. This gauge was used by many of the branch tramways in the forest.

When the Severn and Wye became a Railway rather than a Tramroad the standard gauge for the Great Western Railway was what we now call ‘broad-gauge’ – 7 ft 1⁄4 in (2,140 mm)....

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Re: The Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire (UK)
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2020, 02:30:12 PM »
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My wife and I stay in the Forest of Dean most years. September 2019 was no exception. We stayed in a cottage close to what were Cannop and Speech House Collieries which were both rail served when they were active collieries. I have already posted about Cannop Colliery as part of this series of posts. It seems appropriate that I post something about Speech House Colliery.

http://rogerfarnworth.com/2019/09/14/speech-house-hill-colliery-and-railway

Speech House Hill Colliery was located at OS Grid Reference: SO614119....

...Although the tramroad connection was only completed in 1869, it was superseded by a railway connection to the Severn and Wye Railway in 1874...

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Re: The Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire (UK)
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2020, 02:31:00 PM »
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Another Forest of Dean Colliery. .... Flour Mill Colliery. ...

http://rogerfarnworth.com/2017/09/30/the-flour-mill-colliery

Today, one of the Flour Mill Colliery buildings is still in use as ‘The Flour Mill Ltd’. The company is engaged principally in the repair and overhaul of steam locomotives, although it undertakes other railway-related activities such as the valuation of historic locomotives and luxury train operations...