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Re: Kato NYC 20th Centurty Limited - PWRS, official announcement soonish?
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2020, 03:34:32 PM »
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Kato tends to look at each project as a line item and in some ways looks at future derivations years later as a separate enterprise.
Luckily the E7 doesn’t involve dynamic brakes, but pilot variations, headlight, numberboard, steam generator types and single or dual, and phase (even within NYC) come into play.   
Will the NYC have small NB, 45 degree?  Which of four or five pilot styles?  Coupler covers, open, closed, removed?  NYC should have single HL, but that eliminates some future quick paint job releases right there. 
The train Kato is modeling entered service in late 1948.  By that time, the E7 was being produced with the larger angled style number boards.
Might we assume that the newest units would be assigned to the premier passenger train?
Since they're only making A units, if the pilots have coupler covers, at least one of the units will need to have the covers in the open position if you're going to run a pair of them.


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Re: Kato NYC 20th Centurty Limited - PWRS, official announcement soonish?
« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2020, 04:22:52 PM »
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Re: Kato NYC 20th Centurty Limited - PWRS, official announcement soonish?
« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2020, 04:34:53 PM »
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Very disappointed there's no E7B.  Especially if we see SP Daylight E7's in the future.

The problem with that is NYC E7A only has a single headlight, whereas SP, MKT, and a lot of the others have dual headlights. And if Kato treats the E7A like the did with the Milwaukee Road FP7 that will only be done in MILW because of the winterization hatch and road specific details. We will most likely never see one in WP which they could sell for the CZ.

I would love to have a dual headlight version myself for both a two tone RI/SP Golden State Limited, or even an SP in Daylight to pull the Coast Daylight.

So here's hoping to E7A with double headlights as well as E7Bs to compliment the trains as well.

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Re: Kato NYC 20th Centurty Limited - PWRS, official announcement soonish?
« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2020, 04:43:47 PM »
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We will most likely never see one in WP which they could sell for the CZ.

 WP never had any "E" units. They only used "F" units on the CZ. They always keep the traction trucks to 2 axles right up till the time UP bought them.
 So, yes we will never see any in WP paint
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Re: Kato NYC 20th Centurty Limited - PWRS, official announcement soonish?
« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2020, 04:54:03 PM »
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They have done the E8/9 model with different pilots and different headlamp configurations. I would have to go look at pics for number boards but it shows they are not opposed to tooling different versions.

I am still holding out hope for E5 B units.
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Re: Kato NYC 20th Centurty Limited - PWRS, official announcement soonish?
« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2020, 05:46:49 PM »
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WP never had any "E" units. They only used "F" units on the CZ. They always keep the traction trucks to 2 axles right up till the time UP bought them.
 So, yes we will never see any in WP paint

So glad you choose to take what I said out of context, I was referring to the FP7 which the WP did have. As I said, if they treat the E7A like they did the FP7A, then we will not see any other roads possibly other than NYC. Only other road that I know off the top of my head that single headlight E7As was PRR, though I'm sure there were others.
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Re: Kato NYC 20th Centurty Limited - PWRS, official announcement soonish?
« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2020, 05:49:25 PM »
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So glad you choose to take what I said out of context, I was referring to the FP7 which the WP did have.

 I got ya now. I didn't read it that way and understand what you said now.
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Re: Kato NYC 20th Centurty Limited - PWRS, official announcement soonish?
« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2020, 05:59:36 PM »
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I got ya now. I didn't read it that way and understand what you said now.

I just saw it as a simple misunderstanding. No harm no foul! 😀
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Re: Kato NYC 20th Centurty Limited - PWRS, official announcement soonish?
« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2020, 06:16:11 PM »
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Only other road that I know off the top of my head that single headlight E7As was PRR, though I'm sure there were others.






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Re: Kato NYC 20th Centurty Limited - PWRS, official announcement soonish?
« Reply #39 on: April 01, 2020, 06:25:00 PM »
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Based on the FP7 that came with the Hiawatha set, it may be years before we see other road names on the Kato E7. :|

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Re: Kato NYC 20th Centurty Limited - PWRS, official announcement soonish?
« Reply #40 on: April 01, 2020, 06:28:56 PM »
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Union Pacific, SP Daylight, Pennsy second run of the second BL release, CB&Q, CNW, GN Empire Builder.
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Re: Kato NYC 20th Centurty Limited - PWRS, official announcement soonish?
« Reply #41 on: April 01, 2020, 06:58:30 PM »
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I got ya now. I didn't read it that way and understand what you said now.

Sorry if that last reply come across condescending, wasn't the intent.

And thanks guys for the other E7As with single headlights, I knew of PRR (5901), NYC (because of the Walthers 20th I own). I'm pretty unknowledgable about eastern roads, though I try to do research when needed.
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Re: Kato NYC 20th Centurty Limited - PWRS, official announcement soonish?
« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2020, 10:48:24 AM »
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The Texas Special used single headlight E7's as well (Katy and Frisco).
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Re: Kato NYC 20th Centurty Limited - PWRS, official announcement soonish?
« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2020, 11:05:58 AM »
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The Texas Special used single headlight E7's as well (Katy and Frisco).

Gotta pic?

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Re: Kato NYC 20th Centurty Limited - PWRS, official announcement soonish?
« Reply #44 on: April 02, 2020, 10:49:53 PM »
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The Texas Special used single headlight E7's as well (Katy and Frisco).

I was sure I seen one on a search, then I couldn't find that again. All I could find was double headlights on the power for both Katy and Frisco.

Other than the pics/roads previously posted, the only other single headlight pic I could find was KCS #12.
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/kcs12.jpg

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