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jdcolombo

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Re: New LokSound V.5 replaces Select, old V.4
« Reply #150 on: November 07, 2019, 02:25:28 PM »
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Loksound 5 DCC micro, measured with digital calipers, with shrink wrap on:

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Re: New LokSound V.5 replaces Select, old V.4
« Reply #151 on: November 07, 2019, 02:46:57 PM »
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Ok thanks, John! That is the exact same width I just measured on the older Micro.

What's really crazy is I just checked the older Micro in an older Kato C44-9W shell and, while pretty snug, it does fit.

Now I'm questioning my memory, as I thought I checked if that decoder would fit in everything I had. :? ;)

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Re: New LokSound V.5 replaces Select, old V.4
« Reply #152 on: November 07, 2019, 03:13:17 PM »
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Hi Russ.

Not all shells have the same interior width, and even on a single shell, the interior width often varies - the sides are thinner in some spots than others.  I have a few modern diesels (the Fox Valley NS Heritage units, which are both GEVOs and SD70's), and the old Select Micro seemed to fit just fine inside these shells without sanding the shell down.

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Re: New LokSound V.5 replaces Select, old V.4
« Reply #153 on: November 07, 2019, 04:50:40 PM »
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Ok, with a recent separate thread about successfully installing a V5 in a Scaletrains Dash 9, I'm back to being unclear on the width of the V5's and if they'll fit (most/many/some?) narrow-hood diesels. I've seen it mentioned that they are the exact same width as the older, (non-Direct) Micro, but I'm beginning to wonder about that. Has anyone measured both with digital calipers?

Russ, all the dimensions I provided on July 22 (page 6 of this thread) were taken with digital calipers.
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Re: New LokSound V.5 replaces Select, old V.4
« Reply #154 on: November 07, 2019, 05:01:08 PM »
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Hi Russ.

Not all shells have the same interior width, and even on a single shell, the interior width often varies - the sides are thinner in some spots than others.... 
John C.

Yes, this I know.....I thought all too thoroughly. I have (apparently unclear) recall to completely ruling-out the older Micro in a number of my locos after trying to figure out if there's anywhere in the shell I could squeeze it in...somewhere. Guess I need to re-evaluate this again. :facepalm:

….although, I would've probably evaluated for adequate room for both the decoder AND a speaker with enclosure. May have been how I ruled it out previously (wish I took notes now).

Russ, all the dimensions I provided on July 22 (page 6 of this thread) were taken with digital calipers.

Sorry. I should've gone thru the thread again before posting but, instead, I went off (apparently unclear) recall once again! :facepalm: ;)

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Re: New LokSound V.5 replaces Select, old V.4
« Reply #155 on: November 07, 2019, 09:50:49 PM »
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Hi Russ
Sorry if my quote of 10.4mm wide with wrap was off a bit.  Seems I need to retire my analog vernier and get a digital one.
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Re: New LokSound V.5 replaces Select, old V.4
« Reply #156 on: November 07, 2019, 09:56:25 PM »
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Hi Russ
Sorry if my quote of 10.4mm wide with wrap was off a bit.  Seems I need to retire my analog vernier and get a digital one.

No worries...I don't think that was what was adding to my confusion. ;)

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Re: New LokSound V.5 replaces Select, old V.4
« Reply #157 on: November 15, 2019, 10:21:44 AM »
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Just as a FYI, the ESU site is now showing adapters for the Next18 plug.  Probably the most interesting is the 51993 Next18 to loose wires.  I'm sure they are the exact same as what already come with the decoders so no space savings on thickness, but could be handy if you bought the wrong decoder.

Not showing in stock at places like Streamlined Backshop or Yankee Dabbler yet but I imagine they will get there.

    
    
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Re: New LokSound V.5 replaces Select, old V.4
« Reply #158 on: November 26, 2019, 09:43:12 PM »
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No worries...I don't think that was what was adding to my confusion. ;)
Hey Russ
W.r.t. the Kato dash 9 IIRC there was a discussion on whether the 73100 would fit due to the height.  It does fit but you have to grind off inside the shell in way of the exhaust stack after filling up that area with CA glue to get the shell to snug down correctly.
I have four Kato dash 9’s, two I fitted with the 73100 and the other two with the 73800.
Jere is photo of each.
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Re: New LokSound V.5 replaces Select, old V.4
« Reply #159 on: November 26, 2019, 10:04:56 PM »
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I did actually install a 73100 in a Kato Dash-9, having to grind-down the area of the stack as you mentioned.