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High Hood

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Canadian Coal Trains
« on: October 22, 2019, 12:19:46 PM »
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I was reading this years edition of Locomotive, and I read that in 1969 CP ordered 29 M630’s for coal service in British Columbia. I was wondering if any of the Canadians on here has any info on what Canadian coal operations were like back in the MLW days and even what they are like today? 

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Re: Canadian Coal Trains
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2019, 03:51:25 PM »
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Canadian coal trains is a big subject...
CP, CN and BC Rail loaded unit trains in BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan (just CP and CN in the latter two provinces)

The CP M630s were ordered along with the first CP bathtub cars for Kaiser resources unit train service from Fording River to Robert's Bank, BC hauling metelurical coal for Japanese Steel Mills.

They Ran in 100-105 car trains with mid-train robots and manned helpers over Roger's Pass.

The M630s proved unreliable in this service and were replaced when the 5800 series SD40-2s arrived in 1974.

Interesting side note the original cars were painted Action Red, however the effects of coal dust were quickly noticed and all subsequent orders were painted Black.
The original cars were never repainted however, they're still red under all the coal dust!  :D
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Re: Canadian Coal Trains
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2019, 04:29:40 PM »
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Interesting side note the original cars were painted Action Red, however the effects of coal dust were quickly noticed and all subsequent orders were painted Black.
The original cars were never repainted however, they're still red under all the coal dust!  :D

"Red":

http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cp349698&o=cprail

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Re: Canadian Coal Trains
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2019, 04:33:47 PM »
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Now that is some heavy "weathering" !

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Re: Canadian Coal Trains
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2019, 06:02:31 PM »
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Re: Canadian Coal Trains
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2019, 12:32:04 PM »
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Sad the hear the M630’s didn’t last long on these trains. Seeing them in robot service would be really cool! The territory these ran through is absolutely stunning!

How much coal did BC Rail handle? I’ve seen some photos of their electrics hauling coal. Were their MLW’s involved in coal service?
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Re: Canadian Coal Trains
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2019, 08:27:15 AM »
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The M630s proved unreliable in this service and were replaced when the 5800 series SD40-2s arrived in 1974.


The M630s were ordered after CP tried out early 5500 series SD40s which they weren't not too happy with.

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Re: Canadian Coal Trains
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2019, 12:51:52 PM »
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The M630s were ordered after CP tried out early 5500 series SD40s which they weren't not too happy with.

True, however the issues with the 5500 series SD40s predated the Coal trains, and were eventually sorted out.

Also CP had no issues with the SD40-2s and once the locotrol systems were changed over the MLW units were used mostly back east.