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Nice stuff. Do you know a date for the patched Stax?
Good info, thanks. That's sorta still in my era.Weird that they quit STAX and then started up UMAX just a few years later.
STAX pull outChad Hewitt 06/29/06 #19945 It looks like the anticipated pull out of CSXI equipment from the STAX pool has begun. I spotted CSXU939144 on the road today, with a CSXI decal overthe old "STAX" lettering, though the yellow arching boxes graphic was still in place. Nearly the full roster of 53' Jindo's are now showing in theCSXU939000-939999 in UMLER, so it's a sequential series transfer of the roster.
CSX Intermodal and Union Pacific to Suspend STAX ProgramReleased: Jun 30, 2006In May of 2003 CSX Intermodal and Union Pacific Railroad introduced STAX as a new 53' rail controlled container program offering interline service between and within the two railroads. After three years of offering this service, CSXI and UP have agreed to suspend STAX service in 2006 in an effort to improve utilization of the container assets currently existing within STAX. As the STAX program is de-marketed over the next few months, a large majority of STXU containers will be reassigned into other container programs. CSXI will be enhancing 53' inventories of the CSXU program with its ownership of STXU's.CSXI and Union Pacific will discontinue offering STAX interline prices effective August 1, 2006. However, CSXI will continue to offer pricing for STAX containers moving within the CSXI network until its owned STXU assets have been redeployed, likely completed in the fall of this year. Please be aware that while CSXI pricing will temporarily remain in place, these assets will continuously be reassigned over time in the months ahead and STAX inventories available for booking will noticeably be declining within the CSXI network.CSXI appreciates the many supporters of the STAX program and looks forward to continuing as your rail asset provider going forward.
Clayton S. Johanson 07/01/06 #19969 Already today I witnessed two Jindo STXUs with the STAX letters patched over with CSX Intermodal and the reporting marks changed to CSXU. It seems from the start UP and CSXI designed the program so that it could be withdrawn at any time and the containers put back into their respective pools. CSXI contributed Jindos and UP contributed Hyundai boxes, which were similar to the EMHUs that were being delivered around the same time. After the creation of the UPHUs were there any Hyundai STXU boxes left?
Chad Hewitt 08/27/06 #20305 ..... The pullout is mutual with the red Jindo steel boxes going back to CSXU and the white x-post Hundai's going to UP to match thiercontributions into the pool. The UP contributed boxes have been remarked for HUB (UP)service in UPHU marks, as well as for Werner service in WERUmarks.....
CSX Intermodal and Union Pacific Railroad Announce UMAX Domestic Interline Container Program Providing Truck-Competitive ServicesCustomers Have Access to More Than 20,000 Containers and More than 600 Service Lanes Maximize Market ReachOmaha, Neb. and Jacksonville, Fla., February 24, 2010 – UMAX, a new domestic interline container program created by CSX Intermodal and Union Pacific Railroad, will provide customers access to more than 20,000 containers and expanded market reach across North America. UMAX will feature more than 600 service lanes supported by faster and more frequent train schedules. UMAX launches March 29, 2010."UMAX will offer extensive market access and expanded capacity across a nationwide intermodal network," said John Kaiser, Union Pacific vice president and general manager - Intermodal. "Union Pacific and CSX Intermodal are committed to delivering market-competitive service and value to our customers, providing truck-competitive schedules that maximize the benefits and efficiencies of rail intermodal.""In a word, UMAX offers customers more," said James Hertwig, CSX Intermodal president. "We will jointly offer more containers and more lanes to more customers with more competitive schedules than ever."Other key UMAX customer benefits include:• Truck-competitive service in key lanes.• Expanded network access to markets across North America.• Access to more than 20,000 53-foot containers.• Ramp-to-ramp and door-to-door service.• Easy, Web-based container reservations and billing through REZ-1.• A simple one-container, one freight bill transportation solution.UMAX will offer rail-provided 53-foot containers to intermodal marketing companies, motor carriers, freight brokers, truckload, parcel and less-than-truckload customers. UMAX will replace the separate programs CSX Intermodal and Union Pacific offer customers today for CSXI-UP interline service.For additional information, go to the CSX Intermodal or Union Pacific Intermodal Web sites.http://www.uprr.com/newsinfo/releases/service/2010/0224_umax.shtml
That would be a bit weird if the exterior posts went to Hub in 2006 as as the time they were still in business with BNSF and not UP. Maybe those cans actually became EMP?It's interesting how UP has had its hands in all these joint ventures without ever putting a logo or reporting mark on a container or intermodal car, as far as I've seen.
Hub Group to Shift from BNSF to UPJohn D. Boyd | Jun 3, 2009The Journal of Commerce Online - News Story Intermodal shipper tries new provider for most western boxes Intermodal middleman firm Hub Group, one of the industry leaders, will shift the majority of its western-U.S. box loads to Union Pacific Railroad from BNSF Railway, says stock analyst Edward Wolfe of Wolfe Research.In a special note to clients issued Tuesday evening, Wolfe said the shift could be worth $110 million in added annual revenue to UP. He estimates that over the next three months Hub will shift about 8,400 boxes but leave about 1,400 with BNSF to handle in strategic markets like the Pacific Northwest "where (BNSF) continues to provide superior service."Wolfe said "our sense from management is that the switch should drive increased cost savings from only having to manage one rail platform. However, this is contrary to HUB's past strategy of flexing from rail to rail based on service levels and customer needs."He speculated that Hub "may gain some better all-in pricing" with UP by consolidating more volume there to reap incentives, but said Hub officials "vehemently denied that its existing economics with UP or UP's rate discipline have changed."Meanwhile, another major intermodal provider, Pacer International, has a long-term contract with UP that expires in 2011. Industry observers have been waiting to see if they will negotiate a new contract that would have UP keeping Pacer's volume, and whether Pacer must adjust to significantly higher pricing than it now enjoys.Wolfe said the UP-Hub deal "could also be a strategic move by UP as it begins preparing for life without Pacer once its contract expires."
Chad Hewitt 06/07/09 #24753 As previously stated, BNSF will continue to carry HUB traffic from Chicago to the PNW, so you will continue to see HUB on the BNSF in Twin Cities area.Chad
Chad Hewitt 05/26/06 #19789 I saw UPHU239104 back in March, and was told that the number of HUB/UP boxes would probably be limited, but it sure looks like there's a fewhundred if the move was series sequential. They don't show up on the BNSF website, so I'm betting that these are for UP routes only. As amatter of fact, the first one I saw was being turned around at the Corwith inbound gate...Chad
Chad Hewitt 08/27/08 #23376 Rich wrote:First I saw EMP with green boxes, now Hub Group. What`s the deal with everyone going to green boxes? Note that all of the green EMP boxes are in EMHU marking, which is HUB Group service in the EMP pool... With the green HUB labeled boxes now, I'd deduced that green is to UP/HUB as red is to BNSF/HUB (ie. red HIGU steel boxes). Joseph with HUB has confirmed this color coding scheme. So, it's not everyone "going green", just HUB for their UP service.
Re: Hub Group to Shift from BNSF to UPChad Hewitt 06/05/09 #24736 Is there a protocol for using the white, green, and red boxes as far as prescribed lanes or contracts go? Up until now, red=BNSF, green=UP service for steel boxes.In general for or the aluminum S&P boxes, you've got to look at the box lineage:old STAX (with the very large HUB logo) = UP,anything with a BNSF logo, or the BNSF police decal = BNSF.Otherwise the reporting marks would tell you:HUBU/HGIU=BNSFHUNU=NSUPHU=UP.Going forward though, I would guess it's going to be a free for all on the UP movements.I'll ask around, but I'm assuming that the PNW service mentioned to remain with BNSF would be the CHC-PNW lanes, so we'll still have HUB on the northern Transcon after the dust settles.Chad
Chad Hewitt 06/06/09 #24749 An updated article at the JOC website appears to confirm that the supply of pool boxes from EMP may have been significant factor in the HUB move to UP. Also noted is a time table of the switch beginning next week, with several months required to move the appropriate traffic onto the UP.http://www.joc.com/node/411694Excerpt as follows:"Yeager said one big factor was that UP's policy of supplying containers fit closely with what Hub calls its own "asset-light" business model. BNSF in recent years has pushed intermodal shippers to provide their own equipment.He said Hub did not make the move on the basis of freight rates, and "we did not ask for rate concessions" to put more boxes in UP's hands, but he would not discuss how the pricing there compares with that of BNSF. Hub and UP agreed to a multi-year contract.Hub began using some UP-supplied boxes about three years ago, and that service grew from an initial 2,000 53-foot containers to 6,000 now. Yeager said Hub notified customers and BNSF this week that it will commence the shift to UP in the second week of June."It has also been confirmed that HUB will continue to use BNSF in the Chicago-PNW route for the 1,400 boxes that will remain.
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