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Jacksonville Terminal Company - JTC June 2019 Releases
« on: June 03, 2019, 02:22:10 PM »
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JUNE 2019 Releases - We have some great June releases ready now and will be shipping to distributors this week. If your "Go To" store doesn't have our product, please ask them to contact Heartland Hobby or Hobbytyme distributors as they have our full product line in stock.

This month JTC is releasing Seven New schemes on our 53' HC container:

    535020 PACER (New image)- The last Pacer scheme, featuring the cool large 'P' logo.

   
535070 CN Intermodal - The 'multi-modal' scheme, First time in N scale (maybe any scale !). What a neat graphic.

   
535004 STAX - The 'seen everywhere' STAX double-stack scheme (UP/CSX).

   
535017 CSX (ex-Stax) - CSX took back part of the Stax units, patched with Fresh paint and reporting marks, and put them into service.

   
535009 CSX Intermodal - This is the 'reverse color' Logo scheme, adding variety to CSX's fleet.

   
535066 COFC Logistics - COFC obtained a number of ex-Pacer units, and patched them in various ways. This scheme is one example patch with green paint.

   
535050 CANADIAN TIRE - What a beautiful scheme, with lots of detailed printing AND flat panel doors.


 

20' standard height Releases
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    205339 YANG MING
    205340 GESEACO
    205341 ZIM

See all the detailed photos on the associated web pages, llink to web page news below;
https://jtcmodeltrains.com/blogs/news/june-2019-releases

We will be attending the N Scale Enthusiast convention in Chicago towards the end of June. We have a newly decorated 20' container that will be released at the show.
We will be in Salt Lake City for the National Train Show July 12th - 14th. While we don't participate in long lead time product announcements/pre-orders, we don't mind discussing with the modelers what we are working on and what to expect. So please stop by and see us.

Thank you for your interest in the JTC product line. We are open to suggestions on new products that the industry is lacking so please drop us a line and some pictures at service@jtcmodeltrains.com. Thank you for your business and the opportunity to deliver products to you.

The JTC Team

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Re: Jacksonville Terminal Company - JTC June 2019 Releases
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2019, 10:17:51 PM »
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Nice stuff.  Do you know a date for the patched Stax?

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Re: Jacksonville Terminal Company - JTC June 2019 Releases
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2019, 10:35:51 PM »
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Yeah, some great schemes this month!
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Re: Jacksonville Terminal Company - JTC June 2019 Releases
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2019, 10:53:14 PM »
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Nice stuff.  Do you know a date for the patched Stax?

I believe it was the last half of 2006 that STAX was disbanded and containers were re-distributed / patched ...

""CSX Intermodal and Union Pacific created a joint container program connecting major North American markets with an initial fleet of 3700 new 53-foot containers. The new program, which will be known as "STAX," will offer shippers competitive transit schedules, the advantage of intermodal pricing, expedited interline transfers, new equipment, service in lanes with the highest demand, and convenient billing. CSXI markets served by the STAX program are Atlanta, Boston, Charlotte, Chicago, Cleveland, Columbus, Jacksonville, New York and Tampa. Markets served by the UP are Chicago, Dallas, Denver, El Paso, Fort Smith (Arkansas), Kansas City, Los Angeles, Memphis, Phoenix, Reno, Salt Lake City and St. Louis. The service began May 15, 2003. STAX service ended in 2006."

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Re: Jacksonville Terminal Company - JTC June 2019 Releases
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2019, 11:56:50 PM »
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Good info, thanks.  That's sorta still in my era.

Weird that they quit STAX and then started up UMAX just a few years later.

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Re: Jacksonville Terminal Company - JTC June 2019 Releases
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2019, 02:18:27 AM »
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I started seeing those CN containers on KCS trains down here in Texas a few months ago. Very nice scheme, and I'm pleasantly suprised that I'll be able to pick some up this month. Thank you!

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Re: Jacksonville Terminal Company - JTC June 2019 Releases
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2019, 12:02:06 AM »
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Good info, thanks.  That's sorta still in my era.

Weird that they quit STAX and then started up UMAX just a few years later.

@jagged ben if it helps, here's a but more information from the Modelintermodal list:

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STAX pull out
Chad Hewitt 06/29/06   #19945 
It looks like the anticipated pull out of CSXI equipment from the STAX pool has begun.  I spotted CSXU939144 on the road today, with a CSXI decal over
the old "STAX" lettering, though the yellow arching boxes graphic was still in place.  Nearly the full roster of 53' Jindo's are now showing in the
CSXU939000-939999 in UMLER, so it's a sequential series transfer of the roster.

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CSX Intermodal and Union Pacific to Suspend STAX Program

Released: Jun 30, 2006

In May of 2003 CSX Intermodal and Union Pacific Railroad introduced STAX as a new 53' rail controlled container program offering interline service between and within the two railroads. After three years of offering this service, CSXI and UP have agreed to suspend STAX service in 2006 in an effort to improve utilization of the container assets currently existing within STAX. As the STAX program is de-marketed over the next few months, a large majority of STXU containers will be reassigned into other container programs. CSXI will be enhancing 53' inventories of the CSXU program with its ownership of STXU's.

CSXI and Union Pacific will discontinue offering STAX interline prices effective August 1, 2006. However, CSXI will continue to offer pricing for STAX containers moving within the CSXI network until its owned STXU assets have been redeployed, likely completed in the fall of this year. Please be aware that while CSXI pricing will temporarily remain in place, these assets will continuously be reassigned over time in the months ahead and STAX inventories available for booking will noticeably be declining within the CSXI network.

CSXI appreciates the many supporters of the STAX program and looks forward to continuing as your rail asset provider going forward.

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Clayton S. Johanson  07/01/06   #19969 
Already today I witnessed two Jindo STXUs with the STAX letters patched over with CSX Intermodal and the reporting marks changed to CSXU. It seems from the start UP and CSXI designed the program so that it could be withdrawn at any time and the containers put back into their respective pools. CSXI contributed Jindos and UP contributed Hyundai boxes, which were similar to the EMHUs that were being delivered around the same time. After the creation of the UPHUs were there any Hyundai STXU boxes left?

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Chad Hewitt 08/27/06   #20305 
.....  The pullout is mutual with the red Jindo steel boxes going back to CSXU and the white x-post Hundai's going to UP to match thier
contributions into the pool.  The UP contributed boxes have been remarked for HUB (UP)service in UPHU marks, as well as for Werner service in WERU
marks.....

So, long story short, STAX ended officially in 30 June 2006 and there was observations of the CSXU patches the month before and they continued in quick succession after. A short 3 year partnership between UP and CSX. The red 53' corrugated Jindo's went back to CSX and the 53' white exterior posts went back to UP (HUB Group service) and Werner.

I'm not sure what to make of the "utilisation" comment in the press release - maybe the make up of the fleet in terms of the mix of steel containers and the aluminium exterior post containers and their different customers / loading patterns?

Nearly 4 years later (not a short time in intermodal developments), UP and CSX again partnered to launch UMAX in Feb / Mar 2010. Whilst UMAX was launched as an all-steel container fleet, some second hand x-posts have ended up in there.

The first dark blue UMAX cans were spotted July 2010.

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CSX Intermodal and Union Pacific Railroad Announce UMAX Domestic Interline Container Program Providing Truck-Competitive Services

Customers Have Access to More Than 20,000 Containers and More than 600 Service Lanes Maximize Market Reach

Omaha, Neb. and Jacksonville, Fla., February 24, 2010 – UMAX, a new domestic interline container program created by CSX Intermodal and Union Pacific Railroad, will provide customers access to more than 20,000 containers and expanded market reach across North America. UMAX will feature more than 600 service lanes supported by faster and more frequent train schedules. UMAX launches March 29, 2010.

"UMAX will offer extensive market access and expanded capacity across a nationwide intermodal network," said John Kaiser, Union Pacific vice president and general manager - Intermodal. "Union Pacific and CSX Intermodal are committed to delivering market-competitive service and value to our customers, providing truck-competitive schedules that maximize the benefits and efficiencies of rail intermodal."

"In a word, UMAX offers customers more," said James Hertwig, CSX Intermodal president. "We will jointly offer more containers and more lanes to more customers with more competitive schedules than ever."

Other key UMAX customer benefits include:
• Truck-competitive service in key lanes.
• Expanded network access to markets across North America.
• Access to more than 20,000 53-foot containers.
• Ramp-to-ramp and door-to-door service.
• Easy, Web-based container reservations and billing through REZ-1.
• A simple one-container, one freight bill transportation solution.

UMAX will offer rail-provided 53-foot containers to intermodal marketing companies, motor carriers, freight brokers, truckload, parcel and less-than-truckload customers. UMAX will replace the separate programs CSX Intermodal and Union Pacific offer customers today for CSXI-UP interline service.

For additional information, go to the CSX Intermodal or Union Pacific Intermodal Web sites.

http://www.uprr.com/newsinfo/releases/service/2010/0224_umax.shtml


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Re: Jacksonville Terminal Company - JTC June 2019 Releases
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2019, 12:23:47 AM »
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Great info James.

That would be a bit weird if the exterior posts went to Hub in 2006 as as the time they were still in business with BNSF and not UP.  Maybe those cans actually became EMP?

It's interesting how UP has had its hands in all these joint ventures without ever putting a logo or reporting mark on a container or intermodal car, as far as I've seen.

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Re: Jacksonville Terminal Company - JTC June 2019 Releases
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2019, 03:55:14 AM »
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That would be a bit weird if the exterior posts went to Hub in 2006 as as the time they were still in business with BNSF and not UP.  Maybe those cans actually became EMP?

It's interesting how UP has had its hands in all these joint ventures without ever putting a logo or reporting mark on a container or intermodal car, as far as I've seen.

Well, not quite...on a couple of fronts.

Before the big shift in 2009, HUB Group, as an IMC utilised both BNSF and UP in certain lanes. Same after the big shift - as some of the '05 era red HGIUs stayed on the BNSF northern Transcon.

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Hub Group to Shift from BNSF to UP

John D. Boyd | Jun 3, 2009
The Journal of Commerce Online - News Story
Intermodal shipper tries new provider for most western boxes
Intermodal middleman firm Hub Group, one of the industry leaders, will shift the majority of its western-U.S. box loads to Union Pacific Railroad from BNSF Railway, says stock analyst Edward Wolfe of Wolfe Research.

In a special note to clients issued Tuesday evening, Wolfe said the shift could be worth $110 million in added annual revenue to UP. He estimates that over the next three months Hub will shift about 8,400 boxes but leave about 1,400 with BNSF to handle in strategic markets like the Pacific Northwest "where (BNSF) continues to provide superior service."

Wolfe said "our sense from management is that the switch should drive increased cost savings from only having to manage one rail platform. However, this is contrary to HUB's past strategy of flexing from rail to rail based on service levels and customer needs."

He speculated that Hub "may gain some better all-in pricing" with UP by consolidating more volume there to reap incentives, but said Hub officials "vehemently denied that its existing economics with UP or UP's rate discipline have changed."

Meanwhile, another major intermodal provider, Pacer International, has a long-term contract with UP that expires in 2011. Industry observers have been waiting to see if they will negotiate a new contract that would have UP keeping Pacer's volume, and whether Pacer must adjust to significantly higher pricing than it now enjoys.

Wolfe said the UP-Hub deal "could also be a strategic move by UP as it begins preparing for life without Pacer once its contract expires."

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Chad Hewitt 06/07/09   #24753 
As previously stated, BNSF will continue to carry HUB traffic from Chicago to the PNW, so you will continue to see HUB on the BNSF in Twin Cities area.
Chad

Rewinding back to '06 though...

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Chad Hewitt 05/26/06   #19789 
I saw UPHU239104 back in March, and was told that the number of HUB/UP boxes would probably be limited, but it sure looks like there's a few
hundred if the move was series sequential.  They don't show up on the BNSF website, so I'm betting that these are for UP routes only.  As a
matter of fact, the first one I saw was being turned around at the Corwith inbound gate...
Chad


The STAX x-posts definitely went to UP / HUB (the UPHU reporting mark - UP in Hub Service) and some went to UP / EMP (EMHU - also UP in Hub Service) as these photos show:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=569897
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=534100
and with an EMP in the back:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=934091

So, back in '06 UP definitely had some Hub work.

Also, the great green container era begin in '08, with both EMP and Hub containers for UP service - before the Big Shift.

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Chad Hewitt  08/27/08   #23376 

Rich wrote:
First I saw EMP with green boxes, now Hub Group. What`s the deal with everyone going to green boxes?

Note that all of the green EMP boxes are in EMHU marking, which is HUB Group service in the EMP pool...  With the green HUB labeled boxes now, I'd deduced that green is to UP/HUB as red is to BNSF/HUB (ie. red HIGU steel boxes).  Joseph with HUB has confirmed this color coding scheme.  So, it's not everyone "going green", just HUB for their UP service.

and then after the Big Shift:

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Re: Hub Group to Shift from BNSF to UP
Chad Hewitt 06/05/09   #24736 

Is there a protocol for using the white, green, and  red boxes as far as prescribed lanes or contracts go?
Up until now, red=BNSF, green=UP service for steel boxes.

In general for or the aluminum S&P boxes, you've got to look at the box lineage:
old STAX (with the very large HUB logo) = UP,
anything with a BNSF logo, or the BNSF police decal = BNSF.

Otherwise the reporting marks would tell you:
HUBU/HGIU=BNSF
HUNU=NS
UPHU=UP.

Going forward though, I would guess it's going to be a free for all on the UP movements.

I'll ask around, but I'm assuming that the PNW service mentioned to remain with BNSF would be the CHC-PNW lanes, so we'll still have HUB on the northern Transcon after the dust settles.

Chad

We later learnt what the motivator behind the Big Shift was for Hub too:

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Chad Hewitt 06/06/09   #24749 
An updated article at the JOC website appears to confirm that the supply of pool boxes from EMP may have been significant factor in the HUB move to UP.  Also noted is a time table of the switch beginning next week, with several months required to move the appropriate traffic onto the UP.

http://www.joc.com/node/411694

Excerpt as follows:
"Yeager said one big factor was that UP's policy of supplying containers fit closely with what Hub calls its own "asset-light" business model. BNSF in recent years has pushed intermodal shippers to provide their own equipment.

He said Hub did not make the move on the basis of freight rates, and "we did not ask for rate concessions" to put more boxes in UP's hands, but he would not discuss how the pricing there compares with that of BNSF. Hub and UP agreed to a multi-year contract.

Hub began using some UP-supplied boxes about three years ago, and that service grew from an initial 2,000 53-foot containers to 6,000 now. Yeager said Hub notified customers and BNSF this week that it will commence the shift to UP in the second week of June."

It has also been confirmed that HUB will continue to use BNSF in the Chicago-PNW route for the 1,400 boxes that will remain.

Ain't intermodal modelling fun?  8)
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