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Re: Horizon and Comet Cars in N & HO - Plus a lot more!
« Reply #75 on: June 11, 2019, 05:26:09 PM »
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While I have no first hand knowledge about the reason for wide Phase III stripes, I suspect that the Horizon cars were originally painted with the narrow Phase III stripes, but then the wide Phase III stripes were used to match the stripes on Amfleets.

That makes sense, making them match the Amfleets. I was just chatting with my co-worker across the hall, and he heard from a source that the change was made mid-production after a number of cars had already been delivered. I had assumed that the change happened sometime after they all entered service, but I was wrong (assuming the friend of a friend is correct)!

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Re: Horizon and Comet Cars in N & HO - Plus a lot more!
« Reply #76 on: June 13, 2019, 11:19:05 AM »
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That makes sense, making them match the Amfleets. I was just chatting with my co-worker across the hall, and he heard from a source that the change was made mid-production after a number of cars had already been delivered. I had assumed that the change happened sometime after they all entered service,

Did Amtrak repaint them quickly? Or did Amtrak keep both versions, the one with the broader and the one with the narrower stripes?

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Re: Horizon and Comet Cars in N & HO - Plus a lot more!
« Reply #77 on: June 14, 2019, 07:36:24 PM »
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Both the Ski Train and the Amtrak California would sell in N.  So far as I've noticed, everything Rapido does in N sells out.

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Re: Horizon and Comet Cars in N & HO - Plus a lot more!
« Reply #78 on: June 14, 2019, 07:48:20 PM »
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Both the Ski Train and the Amtrak California would sell in N.  So far as I've noticed, everything Rapido does in N sells out.

Maybe because Rapido does careful  market research, and they only produce models they think will sell well.  :trollface:  :D
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Re: Horizon and Comet Cars in N & HO - Plus a lot more!
« Reply #79 on: June 14, 2019, 08:28:00 PM »
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So far as I've noticed, everything Rapido does in N sells out.
That usually happens when you closely match production quantities to pre-order quantities.

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Re: Horizon and Comet Cars in N & HO - Plus a lot more!
« Reply #80 on: June 14, 2019, 09:31:19 PM »
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Wait...
These are ... these? 

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Re: Horizon and Comet Cars in N & HO - Plus a lot more!
« Reply #81 on: June 14, 2019, 10:41:37 PM »
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Yes!
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I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.

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Re: Horizon and Comet Cars in N & HO - Plus a lot more!
« Reply #82 on: June 14, 2019, 11:11:05 PM »
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Yeah, I'll be in for some phase III then, I guess.  Note that the train in the photo has a mix of the narrow and wide Phase III scheme.  Now to also land one of the OOP atlas Pepsi-Can B32-8s on eBay... :facepalm:

But now to the Amtrak California scheme...
@rapidomike
While these may be too new for me (although on the other hand I need something to run with my Athearn Amtrak California F59PHI), I'm not seeing how it makes sense to offer all three Horizon dinettes and none of the ex-NJT Comet coaches.  A trainset would have one dinette and a bunch of coaches.  Are the coaches just, er, still in the works?   :D

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Re: Horizon and Comet Cars in N & HO - Plus a lot more!
« Reply #83 on: Yesterday at 08:16:17 PM »
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But now to the Amtrak California scheme...
...I'm not seeing how it makes sense to offer all three Horizon dinettes and none of the ex-NJT Comet coaches.  A trainset would have one dinette and a bunch of coaches.  Are the coaches just, er, still in the works?   :D

The Amtrak California Comets are not Comet II's, they are called the Comet IB (1B) on NJT, and were rebuilt from Arrow I & II EMU units. The big difference on the Comet IB is the stainless steel ribbed side, typical of the Arrows, but not any other NJT Comet.
The NJT Comets were all styled after the original version, called the EL Push-Pulls before the Comet II arrived, they later got renamed to Comet I when the Comet II's entered service. The Comet I differs from the Comet II by having a different door height, different cabcar cab window location, and later after ditch lights were installed, having them installed under the carbody, versus the Comet II which had them mounted around midway up the carbody.
The Comet II's were also later rebuilt, cabcars as trailer coaches as well as existing trailer coach upgrades, and are currently called Comet IIM.
Here are examples (trailers only):
Comet I: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=304357
Comet IB: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=213347
Comet II: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4590027
Comet IIM: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1086181
Rapido's NJT Comet II's are the originals and good for the 80s to the early 2000s.