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If you like retro CC/RR N steam go here
« on: May 16, 2019, 12:52:22 AM »
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BLW has 2-8-2s on sale, the old RR made ones.

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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2019, 12:25:19 PM »
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Got a link?  I'm perusing their website (Brooklyn Locomotive Works) https://brooklynlocomotiveworks.com/locomotives.htm
and I'm coming up empty...

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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2019, 12:28:49 PM »
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I found 'em.  Under Capt. Blaster.
Vandy tender is interesting, but if these are new/old stock, you can get RR 2-8-2s on ebay for about $70 anytime you want one.

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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2019, 12:46:47 PM »
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...but if these are new/old stock, you can get RR 2-8-2s on ebay for about $70 anytime you want one.
Would you kindly post a link to a current eBay listing for a new/old stock RR 2-8-2 priced at about $70?

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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2019, 12:53:22 PM »
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Here's a recently sold one.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Con-Cor-N-Scale-2-8-2-Steam-Locomotive-Southern-Pacific/303145144161?hash=item4694dbcf61:g:GnIAAOSwHSVcz4zZ

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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2019, 01:01:22 PM »
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If you do a search for N Scale Atlas Steam, there are a few 2-8-2s that come up with bids starting around $40.  Probably not in "new" condition, but if you really want one, and are cheap like me, you're willing to make a small gamble! :D
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2019, 02:14:04 PM »
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I've found that in most cases, when I buy something "used" they usually come in pretty good shape, and not all that used.
If it comes from a "serious" model railroader, these old engines have probably become shelf queens as newer higher quality engines come along.  If they come from a casual user, then they've only been casually used...
If you must have factory air, then by all means, pay twice what I like to.  I don't think it's worth it to spend that much on 50 year old technology, not when you can get a new(er) Bachmann or Model Power for the same money.
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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2019, 03:09:38 PM »
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Frankly, if I were buying old Rivarossi steam, I'd rather buy a used one from somebody, who has been running it, and knows that it actually works and has a solid frame, as opposed to a NOS one that's been sitting in the box for 20 (or 40?) years.

With those engines, if you've got an old one that's been running for you for years, it probably isn't going to have Zamac rot, and it is probably very solid.

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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2019, 04:15:42 PM »
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Frankly, if I were buying old Rivarossi steam, I'd rather buy a used one from somebody, who has been running it, and knows that it actually works and has a solid frame, as opposed to a NOS one that's been sitting in the box for 20 (or 40?) years.
With those engines, if you've got an old one that's been running for you for years, it probably isn't going to have Zamac rot, and it is probably very solid.
I'd rather have an NOS loco.
My experience with buying used is that the seller's description of "like new" usually translates to looks good on the outside but the mechanism is crammed with cat hair.

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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2019, 05:12:55 PM »
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"like new" usually translates to looks good on the outside but the mechanism is crammed with cat hair.

I don't see a problem there. :D
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Re: If you like retro CC/RR N steam go here
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2019, 09:05:06 AM »
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I've found that in most cases, when I buy something "used" they usually come in pretty good shape, and not all that used.
If it comes from a "serious" model railroader, these old engines have probably become shelf queens as newer higher quality engines come along.  If they come from a casual user, then they've only been casually used...
If you must have factory air, then by all means, pay twice what I like to.  I don't think it's worth it to spend that much on 50 year old technology, not when you can get a new(er) Bachmann or Model Power for the same money.

Even when you consider that you must upgrade the MP Pacifics or Mikados with an all wheels live tender from either B-mann or Kato, often you are spending less money than the just under one-hundred forty bananas that Ol' Cap' Blaster wants for his engines.  You get a far better locomotive, as well.

I sold of all of my RRs on FeePay because the Katos and upgraded MPs ran so much better.  They looked better, as well.  Those RR USRA heavy 2-8-2 shells sat on their chassis in such a way as to remind me of a funny car with its front end jacked up.  Of course, MP has something similar in that once you take off the cab, you can not get it to go back on properly, so it sits somewhat funny, as well.  Still, the things do run better with a B-mann or Kato USRA standard tender.

I don't know if I ain't no "serious" mod-dull rayull-roder", but the only shelves over which my RRs were reigning were those in the closet as they sat in their boxes..  Depending on what they were, those that were intact pulled anywhere between forty and eighty dollars.  Those that were damaged, missing pieces or good only for parts pulled between twenty-five and forty-five dollars.

I learned fairy quickly to show a photograph of the underside of all locomotives in the auction.  There was this one guy in Maryland who kept sending me PMs requesting such a photograph.  After the first two or three, I  simply started to post them.  This way, the prospective buyer can look for himself to see it any of MY hair is in the mechanism.  No worries about hair from any Bad Ol' 'puddy 'tats' ", as GF's Tweety Birds will not allow any cats in the house.  Further, as someone who runs Baltimore and Ohio and Western Maryland equipment, I decidedly don't want no kitty-kats on no pike what belongs to me.

Another advantage of buying the  used RRs is that they often are well broken=in (mine certainly were), or as broken-in as they were going to get.  One thing about the RR steam is that no two examples ran alike.

I did keep one RR.  It is a USRA heavy Pacific with a B&O factory paint in black.  It is the only example of it that I ever have seen.  I bought it new at a Timonium show from this guy who used to sell all of this C-C stuff.  He still sells at the shows, but most of his stock-in-trade these days is the revived AHM HO narrow-gauge stuff and the hot wire scenery tools and foam.  When I bought the thing late in the afternoon on a Saturday, I was surprised to see it because never had I seen one and, being where it was, I was surprised that no one had bought it.  The guy told me that it had been sitting on the table with the box open all day.

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« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2019, 12:36:03 AM »
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Any of the old Concor/Kato J3 Hudsons around? Or do I wait for a new version, someday?
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« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2019, 10:55:38 AM »
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Any of the old Concor/Kato J3 Hudsons around? Or do I wait for a new version, someday?
 Joe D

Certainly not any new ones.  It's eBay for you!
Seriously, the one you want is the 1980s version with the gray plastic siderods that was made by Kato and sold by Con-Cor.
After the two companies parted ways, Con-Cor made more of them, produced in China, but they were not quite as good.  Spookshow has a good summary of the history of the engine on his locomotive encyclopedia site.

Unless you expect Kato to come out with a newly re-tooled NYC Hudson (which I highly doubt), I'd just snap one up from eBay and work on improving the shell detailing.