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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1290 on: December 09, 2020, 03:11:39 PM »
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Thanks again for all the input.  All of it, and yet, none of it is helpful!  :trollface:

Here are the priorities for what I need from the project.
1.  When I look up from my desk, I want to see less blue foam.
2.  When I look up from my desk, I don't want to see track hanging in space.
3.  I need the open side to have the appearance of an overpass  (Think of @randgust 's highway bridge against the backdrop, or for those of you old enough to remember, the York Road underpass in Cockeysville.)
4.  I need the back side of it to look like a continuation of the landscape inside the upper loop for the purposes of establishing some more structures.
5.  I need it to be functional for the ridiculous menagerie of N scale equipment I, a grown-a$$ man, play with, which includes silly looking long cars, overhead electric locomotives, and impossibly tight turns.

My preferences
1.  I prefer that the solution not look ridiculous
2.  I prefer that the solution use parts and pieces that I have on hand
3.  I prefer that the solution not create more problems than it solves.
4.  I prefer that the result create a nice backdrop (or 2) as a photo location
5.  I prefer that it be reasonably easy to execute to a reasonable degree of quality/reliability

So, with those things in mind, I'm moving on building the components so I can more clearly see how I'm doing on the above list.
Stay tuned for further updates.
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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1291 on: December 09, 2020, 03:31:44 PM »
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Why not just go balls-deep?



The four-track tunnel portal, sure!  But what really makes that wild is the wood tunnel portal (and presumably wood tunnel liner) boring underneath the four-track line.  I'm sure that'll hold.  :scared:

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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1292 on: December 09, 2020, 03:33:42 PM »
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Here, we've assembled the bridge rail and beam that will be the most visible part of the scene.


I've glued a .60 x .60 styrene block to support the bridge rails, and a 3/16" I-Beam under that to represent the primary bridge structure.  The inside of the I beam will be nested to the top edge of the cardboard, to allow the beam to drop just below it, giving the illusion of the beam bridge construction that @DKS suggests.  I've left one representative nail/steel column between the tracks, because that's plenty.  I can make sure it's adjusted to the fine tuning needed to reduce/prevent side swipes from longer cars.  Anything I would put behind that would essentially be invisible anyway.



This would be the most typically viewed angle.  I think it makes the most logical appearance of a very model railroady situation.  By enabling the installation of structures/scenery inside the upper loop for about a foot, the overpass becomes a small part of a larger scene, thus making the difficult to digest nature of the thing part of a larger salad for the eyes.  Once the abutments are added and other details and weathering around it, hopefully it will be reasonably harmonious with the surroundings.



Here's the view from the front of the layout.  Here you can see how I built up the railing above the cardboard surface to give more of an illusion of depth on the other side.  The additional elevation will be rendered invisible once I ballast this section of track.  The straight railing is less jarring from this vantage point than the two single portals stepped around the curve would be, in my estimation.  Once I fill in the surrounding scenery, again, this should be a reasonably plausible solution from either view.

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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1294 on: December 09, 2020, 03:34:18 PM »
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Do you have a GIF of Wile E. Coyote (a/k/a Lee) painting himself into a corner?  :trollface:

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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1295 on: December 09, 2020, 03:43:36 PM »
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I would just call my attorney to paint me out of it... :trollface:
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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1296 on: December 09, 2020, 03:54:17 PM »
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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1297 on: December 09, 2020, 06:35:57 PM »
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I would just call my attorney to paint me out of it... :trollface:

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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1298 on: December 09, 2020, 07:58:33 PM »
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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1299 on: December 10, 2020, 12:09:42 PM »
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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1300 on: December 11, 2020, 06:04:35 AM »
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Reminds me of a scene from the TV show Titus where in a flashback scene to their childhood, Titus paints a tunnel on the wall and has his little brother run in to it, knocking himself out and Titus says "it worked on the Road Runner"...
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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1301 on: December 11, 2020, 09:52:49 AM »
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That GIF is far more applicable to our hobby than anyone will admit.  What is we do if not create an illusion?
And just like Wile E. Coyote, once our tunnel portal is painted, a train usually comes rocketing out of it!


All the best!
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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1302 on: December 11, 2020, 11:51:08 AM »
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Lee,

that treatment looks better than I expected it would.  However, in place of the nail...what say you to an I-beam of similar width?

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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1303 on: December 11, 2020, 12:01:21 PM »
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Lee,

that treatment looks better than I expected it would.  However, in place of the nail...what say you to an I-beam of similar width?

Just cover the front of the nail with said I beam and be done.
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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1304 on: December 11, 2020, 12:22:16 PM »
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However, in place of the nail...what say you to an I-beam of similar width?

C'mon Dave, give the nail a chance.

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