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GhengisKong

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photo request from SP Passenger Cars Vol.3: Head End cars
« on: January 05, 2019, 04:39:30 PM »
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Ok I am looking to see if one of the 4300 series Golden State baggage cars on pg 353-356 has the old school standard wood doors, or the modified, multi-pane doors from rebuilds. If you want to share the photo, that would be cool, if not just a confirmation of what style doors they have is fine. TIA!

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Re: photo request from SP Passenger Cars Vol.3: Head End cars
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2019, 05:07:37 PM »
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From my copy, the cars have the original wooden doors. One picture shows car 4301 with just the center wooden door with the other doors modernized.
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Re: photo request from SP Passenger Cars Vol.3: Head End cars
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2019, 05:11:17 PM »
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From my copy, the cars have the original wooden doors. One picture shows car 4301 with just the center wooden door with the other doors modernized.

Ok thank you for checking!

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Re: photo request from SP Passenger Cars Vol.3: Head End cars
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2019, 05:23:56 PM »
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SP 4300 eventually became SP MW5984. This photo appears to show the car still equipped with wood style doors:



Here's a brass model of the 4300:



The car is now at a museum in AZ: http://www.azrymuseum.org/roster/roster.html

A brass model of the 4303 also appears to have the wood style doors:

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GhengisKong

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Re: photo request from SP Passenger Cars Vol.3: Head End cars
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2019, 02:09:03 PM »
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SP 4300 eventually became SP MW5984. This photo appears to show the car still equipped with wood style doors:


Thank you for the pics of the brass models. I had tried searching brasstrains.com before for these, but to no avail. I have seen 7241/4300 at the AZ railway museum, but didn't know if they just put new wood doors on or not when it was sent to MOW. That also helps answer the question for how it was painted. The only photo I have of a 4300 in service was from a slide auction and is rather grainy and I didn't know if the rivet panel was reflecting because of Scotchlite or just from silver paint and the angle of the photo.


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Re: photo request from SP Passenger Cars Vol.3: Head End cars
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2019, 05:14:26 PM »
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Thank you for the pics of the brass models. I had tried searching brasstrains.com before for these, but to no avail. I have seen 7241/4300 at the AZ railway museum, but didn't know if they just put new wood doors on or not when it was sent to MOW. That also helps answer the question for how it was painted. The only photo I have of a 4300 in service was from a slide auction and is rather grainy and I didn't know if the rivet panel was reflecting because of Scotchlite or just from silver paint and the angle of the photo.
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Cool!  I've never seen a picture of the Golden State pulled by steam!  I note the Rock Island baggage-dorm (built for the Golden Rocket) behind the RPO car, which suggests that 4300 was being used for mail storage.
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Re: photo request from SP Passenger Cars Vol.3: Head End cars
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2019, 07:26:59 PM »
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Yup! 820 on the train confirmed that this was one of three Rock Island sets between Tucumcari and Vaughn. It was great when I found it as I was having to do an E7 set, but now I get to use a GS-4! I think it is 4440 or 4450 in that pic...