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dougnelson

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Rapido FL9 traction?
« on: December 01, 2018, 05:55:07 PM »
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A single FL9 has a hard time pulling more than a few cars. Anyone else experiencing that?

What are the solutions?  Add traction tires?  Can that be done on regular wheels, or does it needed an indentation for the traction tires?

Bullfrog snot?  Anyone with experience using that?

Any other ideas?

Thanks.

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Re: Rapido FL9 traction?
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2018, 07:09:12 PM »
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  Just clean the wheels with IPA and cut a sliver of Scotch double sided tape to wrap the wheel tread . Worked for a Bachmann 2-6-6-2 .....Mike

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Re: Rapido FL9 traction?
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2018, 08:55:41 AM »
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Sounds like there's something wrong with it. The one I tested pulled fifteen 85' Kato passenger cars without breaking a sweat.

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Re: Rapido FL9 traction?
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2018, 12:29:10 PM »
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You might want to check the MU hoses, they can drag on the track.
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Re: Rapido FL9 traction?
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2018, 07:24:58 PM »
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UPDATE:  My problem was not actually the locomotive - it was the lead sled FL9 dummy I created.  I removed gears from the trucks, also removed the wipers, but it is still a bear to pull.  I removed the dummy from the consist and each of my single FL9s can pull 8 Rapido cars.  The dummy was a failed experiment.  Fortunately, MBK still has powered FL9s for $80 (analog).  Anyone need a Metro North FL9 shell?

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Re: Rapido FL9 traction?
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2018, 09:20:33 PM »
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So you took a complete (powered) FL9 and made it into a dummy?!  I'm curious as to what the reasoning was for doing that.
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Re: Rapido FL9 traction?
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2018, 10:27:50 PM »
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So you took a complete (powered) FL9 and made it into a dummy?!  I'm curious as to what the reasoning was for doing that.
No, l got a basket case motorless chassis from Rapido.

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Re: Rapido FL9 traction?
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2018, 11:09:08 PM »
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No, l got a basket case motorless chassis from Rapido.

Oh, ok. What if you milled out some of the metal from the chassis?  That would make it lighter.  But I guess those are not low-friction trucks like Atlas and Kato use?
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Re: Rapido FL9 traction?
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2018, 11:32:34 PM »
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No, l got a basket case motorless chassis from Rapido.
I need to write to them about whether they have any basket case passenger cars.
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Re: Rapido FL9 traction?
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2018, 04:14:34 AM »
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So you took a complete (powered) FL9 and made it into a dummy?!  I'm curious as to what the reasoning was for doing that.

The trucks have thick metal wipers with cutouts that straddle the axles. For a dummy, I would imagine they could be removed in order to cut down on friction.



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Edit - oops, nevermind. I see you already did that.
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Re: Rapido FL9 traction?
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2018, 12:59:17 PM »
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Oh, ok. What if you milled out some of the metal from the chassis?  That would make it lighter.  But I guess those are not low-friction trucks like Atlas and Kato use?

Removing metal would be the next step, but the split frame holds the trucks in place, so cutting out the center section would involve figuring how to secure the end sections of the frame to hold the trucks.  I guess the frames could also be left full length, but drilled out to remove material. 

Ultimately, 2 powered locos are probably a better solution.

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Re: Rapido FL9 traction?
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2018, 06:51:14 PM »
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I need to write to them about whether they have any basket case passenger cars.

Maybe 5 or 6 years ago Rapido was offering misfit N scale passenger cars for $25. I got a few Daynighters with paint mistakes that were otherwise perfect. I contacted them again a couple of years ago to inquire if they had any more and after some time received a response that they had various misfits missing parts and such but they never got back to me about a way to procure them.

I have a feeling the company was small enough when they offered the original misfits that it was worth their time to gather and sell off the mistakes, (or maybe they just had a ton of them)?

Try contacting them and asking but I have a feeling they have too much going on these days for it to be worth the time for them.

Craig.


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Re: Rapido FL9 traction?
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2018, 07:01:17 PM »
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That's too bad. There is nothing more satisfying than turning something that would end up in the trash into a treasure.
You've crossed the walls, excelled
Further along through their hell
All for my heart, I watch you kill
You always have, you always will
Now spread your wings and sail out to me

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Re: Rapido FL9 traction?
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2018, 10:00:30 PM »
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That's too bad. There is nothing more satisfying than turning something that would end up in the trash into a treasure.

Indeed. And I hate stripping perfectly good models painted in Canadian schemes. I used a few of the misfits as core kits for Laser Horizon and USP sides, other got repainted.

It’s a great way to bulk up consists without paying top dollar too.

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Re: Rapido FL9 traction?
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2018, 10:28:37 PM »
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Ultimately, 2 powered locos are probably a better solution.
Or, you could run an A-A-A lash up: