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Short Vandy Tender ID?
« on: March 26, 2018, 12:03:26 PM »
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Does anyone recognize the prototype for this Bachmann short Vanderbilt tender?



I'm asking, because it reminds me of the American Flyer wide gauge 4693 tender from the 1930's:


I'm really trying to ID the inspiration for the Flyer tender... and the Bachmann one reminds me a lot of it. 
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Re: Short Vandy Tender ID?
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2018, 12:20:00 PM »
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Canadian National used shorter Vandy tenders that were used on U.S. lines.
Not so toy like though.

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Re: Short Vandy Tender ID?
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2018, 12:44:44 PM »
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Re: Short Vandy Tender ID?
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2018, 12:54:44 PM »
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Looks like the prototype is an SP class VT-4:



http://www.cryergrayfoundry.com/main/locomotive_060_SP_models.shtml


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Re: Short Vandy Tender ID?
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2018, 01:17:08 PM »
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Excellent!  That looks like a match for the Bachmann tender for sure.  And the closest I've seen yet that could be inspiration for the Flyer tender.

I could easily see the VT-4 being the inspiration for the American Flyer tender, if say, one photograph was used for the model design.  The overall proportions are there.  Things like the number of stantions on the handrails, and the location of a hatch in the middle of the running board, are a match.  The step in the front, along with being set up for coal, could have easily been a fill-in-the-gap assumption if no photos of the front of the tender were available.  And being a single body casting, they obviously flattened out the profile along the sides, rather than modeling a fully round tank. 

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Re: Short Vandy Tender ID?
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2018, 01:19:01 PM »
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Top for reference.

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Re: Short Vandy Tender ID?
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2018, 01:48:08 PM »
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I think there is a surviving example of this tender on the Mt Rainier Scenic RR in Washington.
It was originally a NWP tender that was purchased to install behind Porter 2-8-2 #5 when it's tender was to rotten to restore with #5.
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Re: Short Vandy Tender ID?
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2018, 09:17:57 AM »
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I think there is a surviving example of this tender on the Mt Rainier Scenic RR in Washington.
It was originally a NWP tender that was purchased to install behind Porter 2-8-2 #5 when it's tender was to rotten to restore with #5.

Good lead, Bryan.  Here's the NWP locomotive in question, and it may be a closer match from the front.

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