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JoeD

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PRR and UP single window coach
« on: March 15, 2018, 12:11:27 PM »
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Looking for a little help.  Need images of a PRR Tuscan coach and a UP Yellow single window coach.  Starting to fill out a production schedule for this summer and need some background info.  So far most of the UP's that wern't harrimans are duel windows...

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Re: PRR and UP single window coach
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2018, 12:23:49 PM »
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*Putting on my SPF hat* I labored for years under the misconception that the PRR class P54 (from whence the electric MP54s came to be) were single window coaches...but I've since learned that they are very subtly double windows.

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Re: PRR and UP single window coach
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2018, 12:45:29 PM »
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I labored for years under the misconception that the PRR class P54 (from whence the electric MP54s came to be) were single window coaches...but I've since learned that they are very subtly double windows.

The MP54s are not paired window coaches, their windows are grouped in three's.  This can be seen in the picture below (from the North East Rails website)...

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Re: PRR and UP single window coach
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2018, 12:53:57 PM »
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focus people.  LOL 
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Re: PRR and UP single window coach
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2018, 01:02:09 PM »
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Joe,

It might just be that these two roads didn't have single window coaches.  :o

http://prr.railfan.net/diagrams/PRRdiagrams.html?sel=coa&sz=sm&fr=

http://utahrails.net/pass/pass-index.php

Maybe a SPF or Uncle Pete Fan (UPF?) can comment.

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Re: PRR and UP single window coach
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2018, 01:16:20 PM »
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Quote from: Mark5 on March 15, 2018, 01:02:09 PM
Joe,

It might just be that these two roads didn't have single window coaches.  :o

http://prr.railfan.net/diagrams/PRRdiagrams.html?sel=coa&sz=sm&fr=

http://utahrails.net/pass/pass-index.php

Maybe a SPF or Uncle Pete Fan (UPF?) can comment.

Mark

As far as I know the Pennsy didn't have a major class of single window steel coaches.  But with Pennsy being what it was I can't swear there wasn't a one-off somewhere.
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Re: PRR and UP single window coach
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2018, 01:48:48 PM »
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And everyone said do single window coaches....everyone had them they said...   LOL 

from now on all the protos going forward are Southern Pacific and nothing else.   :D

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Re: PRR and UP single window coach
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2018, 02:05:08 PM »
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Branchline produced their HO single window coach model in about two dozen different roadnames.
That should be enough to keep you busy for a while.
See pages 33-34: http://www.laserartstructures.com/inst_sheets/bp-pass.pdf
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Re: PRR and UP single window coach
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2018, 02:05:31 PM »
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Quote from: Shipsure on March 15, 2018, 01:48:48 PM
And everyone said do single window coaches....everyone had them they said...   LOL 

from now on all the protos going forward are Southern Pacific and nothing else.   :D

Joe

Sadly the most adamant proponent of a single window coach is no longer with us.    :(

As for me, I’d be in for a single-pane window Jackson & Sharp truss rod coach in HOn3, but something tells me that’s not gonna happen!
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Re: PRR and UP single window coach
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2018, 02:12:13 PM »
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But you did the paired window that has less prototypes?
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Re: PRR and UP single window coach
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2018, 02:31:30 PM »
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I for one am anxiously awaiting the single-window coach. I'm hoping for plain green paint so I can letter them for NKP.  I'll also be happy to buy some NH cars.  I won't buy and UP cars or PRR cars though.
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Re: PRR and UP single window coach
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2018, 02:45:55 PM »
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Do a reverse foobie. Do a proper PRR MP54 coach, label it as a single window coach and then slap whatever road name you want to on it.   :trollface:

Problem solved.  :D
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Re: PRR and UP single window coach
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2018, 02:54:51 PM »
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Ya know, Joe is joking. :D

There is at least one thread on railwire with a gazillion roadname suggestions for single window coaches (but no PRR/UP).  :trollface:

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Re: PRR and UP single window coach
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2018, 03:01:12 PM »
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Sorry Joe, this is all very confusing.  I was under the impression that the N Scale Manufacturers Assoc based all passenger car decisions since 2014 or 15 on the New Haven. I figured since the NH had some, that we would be good to go.
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/nh102.jpg
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/nh8134.jpg

In keeping with the conversation the other day with another manufacturer- if you do them in Erie 2-tone green, I guarantee I will buy 2, and if you do them in L&N dark blue, I will buy another 2.  Or, alternately, if they come out in undec, I will buy 4 and paint them myself.  Unless I buy the PRR and UP ones if they go on sale because they ain't prototypical, and strip the paint.

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And everyone said do single window coaches....everyone had them they said...   LOL 
  A decade to research and you didn't fact check the HO guys posting stuff all over your facebook page?

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from now on all the protos going forward are Southern Pacific and nothing else.
Slap on a balloon roof with vents (I hesitate to call it a Harriman roof, it actually reminds me of the ACF roof for a hospital car) and you're all set.  :D
http://wx4.org/to/foam/sp/san_jose/depot/commcars/id29c.jpg

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Re: PRR and UP single window coach
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2018, 03:19:13 PM »
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Quote from: thomasjmdavis on March 15, 2018, 03:01:12 PM
Slap on a balloon roof with vents (I hesitate to call it a Harriman roof, it actually reminds me of the ACF roof for a hospital car) and you're all set.  :D
http://wx4.org/to/foam/sp/san_jose/depot/commcars/id29c.jpg

Good call! :P
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