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Scott Lupia

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Building a PRR Pullman "Poplar" Series Plan 4060 6-6 Sleeper
« on: March 14, 2018, 11:06:52 AM »
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A little while back Cody Orr messaged me about doing sides for a PRR sleeper he needed.  I had success with the EL business car sides I had done so I figured I'd give it a ago.  I am pretty happy with the results and will be doing more Pullman sides in the near future.  The sides are made to fit the MTL 12-1 sleeper.  They basically use that car as a core.  The MTL streamlined obs roof is also utilized.  One must cut a notch in the obs end for the 12-1 sleeper end.  The mechanical equipment is moved around underneath the car and ice AC equipment has also been added.  I build a basic interior using some of the MTL interior parts and .030" styrene.  Phosphor bronze wire for grabs, American Limited diaphragms and MTL couplers are used.  The trucks are the MTL Erie baggage car trucks with an etched center piece that make them close to the Pullman 242 style truck.  This project would not be possible without the pretty wide range of heavyweight parts available from MicroTrains. 





















A winding and rambling thread about this lives over on the Facebook PRR N-scale modelers page and when I get the parts in I will have these sides for sale on www.KVModels.com

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Re: Building a PRR Pullman "Poplar" Series Plan 4060 6-6 Sleeper
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2018, 12:00:01 PM »
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Yes!  Fantastic.  Can't wait to see what other Pullman plans you do.  An 8-1-2 and 6-3 would be good additions.
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Re: Building a PRR Pullman "Poplar" Series Plan 4060 6-6 Sleeper
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2018, 01:02:17 PM »
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Will these be posted to fleabay like the other offerings?

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Re: Building a PRR Pullman "Poplar" Series Plan 4060 6-6 Sleeper
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2018, 01:14:16 PM »
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I'd like to have you offer the truck-modifying piece all on it's own.
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Re: Building a PRR Pullman "Poplar" Series Plan 4060 6-6 Sleeper
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2018, 01:19:20 PM »
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any chance you could do some NH prototype heavyweights? Like diner and smoker?

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Re: Building a PRR Pullman "Poplar" Series Plan 4060 6-6 Sleeper
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2018, 01:44:32 PM »
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Yes!  Fantastic.  Can't wait to see what other Pullman plans you do.  An 8-1-2 and 6-3 would be good additions.

You got it Mike.  Those are on the list. 

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Re: Building a PRR Pullman "Poplar" Series Plan 4060 6-6 Sleeper
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2018, 01:45:40 PM »
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Will these be posted to fleabay like the other offerings?

I’ll eventually have them up on eBay as well as KVModels.com.

Scott
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Re: Building a PRR Pullman "Poplar" Series Plan 4060 6-6 Sleeper
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2018, 01:47:36 PM »
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I'd like to have you offer the truck-modifying piece all on it's own.

I should have extras. I’ll look and see.  It’s been a while since I worked with them.  I had this completed set of trucks sitting on my desk.  I am sure it went to something.  I guess I’ll find that out sometime in the future.  I’ll let you know what I find. 

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Re: Building a PRR Pullman "Poplar" Series Plan 4060 6-6 Sleeper
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2018, 01:50:45 PM »
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any chance you could do some NH prototype heavyweights? Like diner and smoker?

No chance right now.  I am focusing on Pullman’s which multiple railroads ran/owned.  The only cars I plan on doing that are obscure like that are DL&W buffet lounges and diners.  I need those!

Scott
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Re: Building a PRR Pullman "Poplar" Series Plan 4060 6-6 Sleeper
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2018, 02:25:44 PM »
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You got it Mike.  Those are on the list. 

Scott
I kitbashed two 8-1-2s out of Rivarossi sleepers over a decade ago.  Very surprised that MT never produced it, given that I had already made some.  Will be great to have some options going forward. I am going to have to go through my timetables and passenger train books to figure out what to ask for.

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Re: Building a PRR Pullman "Poplar" Series Plan 4060 6-6 Sleeper
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2018, 02:53:46 PM »
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That's gorgeous Scott!  Are those triple-etched metal sides?  Amazing!
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Re: Building a PRR Pullman "Poplar" Series Plan 4060 6-6 Sleeper
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2018, 03:11:53 PM »
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That's gorgeous Scott!  Are those triple-etched metal sides?  Amazing!

Peteski, I have been using a three layer etched side pattern up to this point.  There is a base layer that is basically a full thickness sheet minus the window frame detail, outer etch layer which is the face of the side with rivet detail and then the final layer which is the belt rail and letter board.  Plenty of thickness to the side and great relief for the detail.  When I get the next set of sides in I will throw a photo up here of the fret.  The three that I got in for the test shots got gobbled up within seconds of being cut from the sheet!

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Re: Building a PRR Pullman "Poplar" Series Plan 4060 6-6 Sleeper
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2018, 03:36:25 PM »
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Until I read Peteski's post, I did not realize there were pictures in the OP- just looked like a couple carriage returns.  Refreshed my screen, and now I see them.  I may have to rescind my disclaimer, sell the house, and buy the entire production within the first 2 hours after its posted.

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Re: Building a PRR Pullman "Poplar" Series Plan 4060 6-6 Sleeper
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2018, 03:39:12 PM »
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any chance you could do some NH prototype heavyweights? Like diner and smoker?

You need to touch base with Bryan Bussey... he has done two types of NH diners and may have some sides still available.

Scott... thanks for the interior shot of the model.  I have been wondering how to reinforce the etched car sides for quite some time now but now I have a better understanding on what I should do to support the sides on the model... much appreciated!!!

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Re: Building a PRR Pullman "Poplar" Series Plan 4060 6-6 Sleeper
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2018, 07:47:38 PM »
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I'd like to have you offer the truck-modifying piece all on it's own.

FYI, Scott has commissioned me to design Pullman 242 trucks for these projects, so no more messing around with "almost".

Erie betterrment roofs will also be on their way soon and an arch roof for the 12-1.

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@Scott Lupia , are you planning on offering those cool etched roof vents separately?
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