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Re: DC Considering scrapping 2 year old fleet of street cars (trolleys)
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2018, 08:10:33 PM »
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How big a fleet are we talking about?

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Re: DC Considering scrapping 2 year old fleet of street cars (trolleys)
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2018, 09:31:55 PM »
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Looks to be the same basic equipment we have here in Houston... Sounds like an even more pointless system than ours as well. Just 2 miles?!?

At least the main run in Houston goes from north of downtown beyond the ol' Astrodome (NRG park)...

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Re: DC Considering scrapping 2 year old fleet of street cars (trolleys)
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2018, 03:54:03 AM »
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The DC system got caught early in politics and its development stymied. Nothing gets done in DC anymore, Federally or locally.

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Re: DC Considering scrapping 2 year old fleet of street cars (trolleys)
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2018, 11:21:47 AM »
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The DC system got caught early in politics and its development stymied. Nothing gets done in DC anymore, Federally or locally.

And they sourced their cars from a Czech company with a tenuous presence in the US. Never a good idea.
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Re: DC Considering scrapping 2 year old fleet of street cars (trolleys)
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2018, 09:10:39 PM »
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And they sourced their cars from a Czech company with a tenuous presence in the US. Never a good idea.

Except for the congressmen who got campaign contributions from that company.

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Re: DC Considering scrapping 2 year old fleet of street cars (trolleys)
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2018, 04:00:27 PM »
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Except for the congressmen who got campaign contributions from that company.


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Re: DC Considering scrapping 2 year old fleet of street cars (trolleys)
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2018, 04:30:21 PM »
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This makes me think of 2001, when the NPS had gone through a full study and analysis of transportation at the Grand Canyon, and recommended light rail as the best value alternative. But two Arizona Federal politicans put the kabash on the idea, because attendance was flat the previous two years, even though attendance had tripled to around 4.5 million annually over the last 30 years. Attendance is slowly creeping towards the 5 million mark, not to mention the number of staff required to attend to that number who also need transportation in, out and around the park. The Park can't handle the auto and pedestrian traffic, which is effecting the quality of the visit experience and the local climate, and its bleeding money on extra staff and transportation contracts required to keep up with keeping people moving. Decisions like this should be left to the subject matter experts, like transportation experts and, in the Grand Canyon example, Park and NPS staff, and politicans should just keep out of it.
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Re: DC Considering scrapping 2 year old fleet of street cars (trolleys)
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2018, 10:18:11 AM »
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Decisions like this should be left to the subject matter experts

Be careful what you ask for.  Politics works in many ways.  The "subject matter experts" too often are "guided" (with coercion when nothing else works) to propose whatever the controlling politicians want proposed.

But, in politics, there are always alternate politicians, who can be used to counter the bad ideas of the controlling politicians.  And, that gives the "subject matter experts" inside and outside an agency a chance to make alternative arguments heard.

With 20+ years of experience working in a Federal agency that was set-up to be as isolated from politics as possible, I feel I have the "expertise" to tell you that isolation from politics is not really possible.