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So another day for the Shapeways sale allowed me to introduce the Keystone Details arched replacement roofs for the same set of MT passenger cars in the 14X 00 series; 60' RPO car, 70' baggage car, Horse car, and Diner car.

Sample 70' arch roof on n MT PRR 70' baggage car:



Horse Car shown below:
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From Keystone Customs for many roads:

Arch Roof For MT 140 00 XXX Series 60' RPO:

Arch Roof For MT 149 00 XXX Series Horse Car:

From Keystone Details for may roads including PRR cars:

Arch Roof For MT 147 00 XXX Series  70' Baggage Car:

Arch Roof For MT 146 00 XXX Series Diner Car:

A Vent tree of PRR Style Vents will be coming soon...


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Wow... this is awesome!!!  Thank you!!!

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What of the baggage - mail???  That car also needs some love...

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What of the baggage - mail???  That car also needs some love...

Unfortunately, I do not have one in my possession.  Perhaps if someone sent me a roof for that series, I could easily do one.  PM me if anyone is interested.

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Would it be possible for one of those turtleback roofs that all the kids are talking about. For a MTL coach.

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Would it be possible for one of those turtleback roofs that all the kids are talking about. For a MTL coach.

Sorry, Picture? or are you referring to the arched roof?  I have a paired window coach if that is what you are referring to?  Can you state the MTL series number?

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Oops "betterment roof" not turtleback  :facepalm:

Like my photo at the top here:
https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=43099.30

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Ah, I recall that thread- these were so easy to make I just pumped them out.  Those are on my list although I am not sure how to handle the end of the car.

The taper is no big deal to design though.

Again though, the snaps are different for each MT car, so I need to know which MT series' is desired for the roof, i.e.  14X 00 XXX.

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I'll do more searching. There were some UP guys who needed the same roof. Maybe they need a certain core car.

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Perhaps the MT diner would be a good candidate for this conversion. And as to the handling the ends, the B&W photo shows how the railroad handled it ... the end profile matches lightweight cars.
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Perhaps the MT diner would be a good candidate for this conversion. And as to the handling the ends, the B&W photo shows how the railroad handled it ... the end profile matches lightweight cars.
Otto K.

That's not quite what I meant Otto, I mean it may require alteration of the MT shell to make these look OK on each end.  Also, all of these cars have modernized sealed windows, did the end of the car change too?  Are there examples of these roofs on un-modernized heavyweights, because that is what it would look like if I design this roof to fir the MT cars.  I have no intention of designing etched sides, so if the MT car were used as a core, then the roofs would have to get wider to accommodate that thickness on each side.  Not impossible to design the roof that way, just wondering if we are overlooking the obvious.

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I would draw up the etched sides for the coaches I wanted. I figured I could use paired window coaches for the core since the are fairly cheap. Maybe I should buy one first to see what all needs done.

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I would draw up the etched sides for the coaches I wanted. I figured I could use paired window coaches for the core since the are fairly cheap. Maybe I should buy one first to see what all needs done.

I am thinking of the end walls which appear square instead of the normal heavyweight tapers in the plan view.  I.e. how do i reconcile a flat end roof with a chamfered end:

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Just bought a coach, will report back  :D

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That's not quite what I meant Otto, I mean it may require alteration of the MT shell to make these look OK on each end.  Also, all of these cars have modernized sealed windows, did the end of the car change too?  Are there examples of these roofs on un-modernized heavyweights, because that is what it would look like if I design this roof to fir the MT cars.  I have no intention of designing etched sides, so if the MT car were used as a core, then the roofs would have to get wider to accommodate that thickness on each side.  Not impossible to design the roof that way, just wondering if we are overlooking the obvious.

John, here's  couple more UP diner/lounge pics, showing the end configuration after the rebuild. As to the sides, my thought was to modify existing diner sides rather than doing overlays. That may or may not work for everyone,
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