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Atlas 20700 gallon tankcars in at MBK
« on: March 23, 2017, 12:31:20 PM »
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The new run of Atlas 20700 gallon tankcars has hit the shelves at MBK, they now have metal wheels it looks like. Picked up a few.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2017, 01:45:34 AM by GaryHinshaw »

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Re: Atlas 20700 gallon tankcars in at MBK
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2017, 01:03:30 PM »
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Ordered one RCRX....
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2017, 01:30:38 PM »
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As always, wondering what specific products the car produced carried for the paint scheme and company represented. The general description Atlas has that MBK posts is nice, but leaves a lot of room to send a car to an industry it never would have visited.

The wait for a good acid tank car continues.
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Re: Atlas 20700 gallon tankcars in at MBK
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2017, 01:33:34 PM »
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Looks like MBK used HO photos again.

I will take a look soon to confirm or deny this.

I need to look at them anyway, to see if any on this release were in service circa 1975.

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Re: Atlas 20700 gallon tankcars in at MBK
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2017, 01:39:10 PM »
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The wait for a good acid tank car continues.

True, but my feeling was that one of them is a decent stand-in for now....

We also need molten sulfur cars....
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Re: Atlas 20700 gallon tankcars in at MBK
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2017, 05:03:28 PM »
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As always, wondering what specific products the car produced carried for the paint scheme and company represented. The general description Atlas has that MBK posts is nice, but leaves a lot of room to send a car to an industry it never would have visited.

The wait for a good acid tank car continues.

The RCRX says Hydrocloric Acid on it.

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Re: Atlas 20700 gallon tankcars in at MBK
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2017, 07:11:28 PM »
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Anyone know what "WX Repaint" means in reference to the GATX cars, and what the era is for any of these cars?

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Re: Atlas 20700 gallon tankcars in at MBK
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2017, 08:56:27 PM »
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The new run of Atlas 20700 gallon tankcars has hit the shelves at MBK, they now have metal wheels it looks like. Picked up a few.

I saw these (N scale) in person today - this is to confirm that MBK used HO pics for these. These (excellent) cars still have plastic wheelsets.

Mark
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Re: Atlas 20700 gallon tankcars in at MBK
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2017, 09:12:47 PM »
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The RCRX says Hydrocloric Acid on it.

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Which is interesting because acid isn't listed as one of the usual commodities hauled in this type of car in the stock Atlas description.  I love their tank car series, I just wish they would expand the offerings.
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Re: Atlas 20700 gallon tankcars in at MBK
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2017, 10:17:05 PM »
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Peter,

I retired from Chevron Products Company in 1996 and my last 10 years I was a field  rep. for Chevron transportation dpt. and was assigned to the El Paso, Texas refinery. My job was to help teach loaders/unloaders the DOT Hazmat regulations as well as helping manage the refinery tank car fleets for the Manufacturing Dpt..

My experience is that acid is a very common commodity for this type of car. I can not read the stencilling on the side of the car to determine the class of this model. The real ones we used were non-insulated, general purpose, lined cars. The interiors were lined with rubber. Our cars were 13,000 gallon capacity and were Chevron owned as opposed to leased car. The refinery also had a couple of cars for molten sulphur and spent hydrogen peroxide. Not anything special but all of the refinery cars were either leased from  Union Tank Car Company, or built by Union Tank Car for Chevron.

I am rambling, but to give an idea of traffic in/out of the refinery they unloaded 2 fresh (100%) sulfuric acid and then turned around and loaded each car with spent acid going out to be re-generated. That's 4 loaded cars handled per day  for 365 or 1,460 load per year and sometimes they would require an extra load or two per week so the grand total cars handled would easily approach 1,500 cars per year.

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Re: Atlas 20700 gallon tankcars in at MBK
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2017, 06:59:23 AM »
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I saw these (N scale) in person today - this is to confirm that MBK used HO pics for these. These (excellent) cars still have plastic wheelsets.

Mark
Thanks for the confirmation, was hoping they had switched to metal wheels but I'll still be getting several of these.

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Re: Atlas 20700 gallon tankcars in at MBK
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2017, 09:54:36 AM »
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Peter,

I retired from Chevron Products Company in 1996 and my last 10 years I was a field  rep. for Chevron transportation dpt. and was assigned to the El Paso, Texas refinery. My job was to help teach loaders/unloaders the DOT Hazmat regulations as well as helping manage the refinery tank car fleets for the Manufacturing Dpt..

My experience is that acid is a very common commodity for this type of car. I can not read the stencilling on the side of the car to determine the class of this model. The real ones we used were non-insulated, general purpose, lined cars. The interiors were lined with rubber. Our cars were 13,000 gallon capacity and were Chevron owned as opposed to leased car. The refinery also had a couple of cars for molten sulphur and spent hydrogen peroxide. Not anything special but all of the refinery cars were either leased from  Union Tank Car Company, or built by Union Tank Car for Chevron.

I am rambling, but to give an idea of traffic in/out of the refinery they unloaded 2 fresh (100%) sulfuric acid and then turned around and loaded each car with spent acid going out to be re-generated. That's 4 loaded cars handled per day  for 365 or 1,460 load per year and sometimes they would require an extra load or two per week so the grand total cars handled would easily approach 1,500 cars per year.

Main line is, always have fun,
Carl

                                                       

Carl, awesome info. I'm trying to get the right cars to deliver acid to a paper mill and one other industry on my Idaho Belt layout. This helps. Atlas will get some of my money anyway, but nice to know the cars aren't total Foobs.
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Re: Atlas 20700 gallon tankcars in at MBK
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2017, 11:57:11 AM »
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Which is interesting because acid isn't listed as one of the usual commodities hauled in this type of car in the stock Atlas description.  I love their tank car series, I just wish they would expand the offerings.

I ordered all three of the RCRX HCl cars. I have an industry that utilizes these on my layout. The red paint is an acid resistant paint that is exclusive to the RCRX cars. HCl will also be delivered in all white cars too, OLNX would have been a great set of reporting marks to utilize. Olin-Chlor cars are just as common as RCRX.

Edit: These should be a nice step up from the old Roundhouse tooling that Athearn is still using for the same style. I have some I upgraded with GMM brass etching. My Atlas cars should arrive today, I hope they look better than mine.
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Re: Atlas 20700 gallon tankcars in at MBK
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2017, 01:06:40 PM »
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Peter:

I miss typed in my earlier reply when I said the refinery shipped spent hydrogen peroxide. I should have said spent Sodium Hydroxide and that was shipped to a paper mill in Arizona. So acid cars and other products could certainly be seen around a paper mill in tank cars.

Karl:

That is one good looking T/C that you modified. Great job.


Somebody mentioned the era for these cars. I can't tell you for sure but I retired from the race in 1996 and I can tell you, for sure, that they did not put a real nice clean looking, easy to read chart on the car with all of the pertinent info such as this acid car has. The chart would include pressure test date of tank, next test due date, full class of car such as DOT111A100, plus other goodies. I believe the commodity is stenciled above the chart.

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Re: Atlas 20700 gallon tankcars in at MBK
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2017, 02:44:33 PM »
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I got my cars an hour ago. They mostly look like the artists rendering. Good piping and valve detail. The plastic wheels look awful. The couplers are truck mounted on Acumate trucks and there is no air line like the picture has.
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