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Code 80 rails are MUCH more reliable in N-scale than mere code 40 especially when you start dropping anvils and ball-peen hammers on it...."Understanding" or "thinking" doesn't have anything to do with why some people think thicker rails are more reliable than thinner rails.Cheerio!Bob Gilmore
I completely disagree sir. My Atlas C55 "layout" is quite reliable even though I run the narrow Kato wheels on my locos and fine scale wheels on all my rolling stock. It all operates well together. Whereas Kato Unitrack gives me all kinds of reliability issues(yes, it's due to my wheel setup). As stated many many times, it's due to what you're running and how well the track/roadbed is laid.Dropping an anvil or hammer on the track and damaging it has nothing to do with reliability. That's like taking a car and running it into a pole and saying it's not reliable because the radiator is cracked.
It is time for action!!As N Scalers we do not tolerate inaccuracies in our cars and locomotives.....why do we continue to put up with toy switches???The problems with better wheel sets are not due to the geometry of the wheels....they are the fault of trying to run them on 1960- era standards European track!We need state of the art track to go along with the trains of today! Many people use Peco track because of its built-in point throw mechanism and robust construction. The "Code 55" line is clever using an embedded double base rail to retain structural strength while providing lower rail height. However it is married to the tie size and spacing of original Arnold Rapido track and uses coarse N.E.M. Standards which are fine for huge treads and pizza cutter wheels. Peco has expanded their line in every scale and gauge but has refused to market a N equivalent of their HO Code 83 line aimed at the North American Market. Atlas did a Code 55 line but it has some strange tie spacing at the switch block ties and lacks a latching mechanism which materially increases the cost of a turnout because you have to add some manual or electrical mechanism to secure the points. It is also not as sturdy as it could be.Micro-Engineering was the first to offer Code 55 and their turnouts are not as durable as they should be and are electrically weak.I know that tooling for track systems is very expensive bu it is IMHO the Number One problem in N Scale today. Companies with existing lines probably feel that a new line would just canibalize sales of track they already are selling. I think whoever brings out a well-engineered, robust, scale proportioned North American track system will quickly dominate the track market and drive many of us to build new or replace existing layouts creating new sales.Thoughts????Charlie Vlk
It is time for action!!As N Scalers we do not tolerate inaccuracies in our cars and locomotives.....why do we continue to put up with toy switches???The problems with better wheel sets are not due to the geometry of the wheels....they are the fault of trying to run them on 1960- era standards European track!We need state of the art track to go along with the trains of today! Many people use Peco track because of its built-in point throw mechanism and robust construction. The "Code 55" line is clever using an embedded double base rail to retain structural strength while providing lower rail height. However it is married to the tie size and spacing of original Arnold Rapido track and uses coarse N.E.M. Standards which are fine for huge treads and pizza cutter wheels. Peco has expanded their line in every scale and gauge but has refused to market a N equivalent of their HO Code 83 line aimed at the North American Market. Atlas did a Code 55 line but it has some strange tie spacing at the switch block ties and lacks a latching mechanism which materially increases the cost of a turnout because you have to add some manual or electrical mechanism to secure the points. It is also not as sturdy as it could be.Micro-Engineering was the first to offer Code 55 and their turnouts are not as durable as they should be and are electrically weak.I know that tooling for track systems is very expensive but it is IMHO the Number One problem in N Scale today. Companies with existing lines probably feel that a new line would just canibalize sales of track they already are selling. I think whoever brings out a well-engineered, robust, scale proportioned North American track system will quickly dominate the track market and drive many of us to build new or replace existing layouts creating new sales.Thoughts????Charlie Vlk
I agree with ya Charlie, and it's been the main problem for decades IMO. That's why I started hand-laying my own turnouts in the late 1970's in code 55 and code 40 (hand laying code 40 track too so that pizza cutters would roll on it). I'm not going to extol the benefits of rolling your own turnouts in this post, but for sure, If a well-detailed, reliable, well-engineered, readily available, correctly proportioned, DCC friendly, made in Britain or the USA (to avoid the inevitable China political supply/reorganization problems) line of turnouts and flex track in rail drawn specifically for N-scale in code 45 (visible height) with a decent rail cross-section and railhead width were available, I'd be buying 'em!Turnouts in #4, #6, #8, #10 and #12, with compatible wyes and curved turnouts would be a good start. Flex with both concrete and wooden US style ties with fine spike/tieplate details to allow most modern medium and low profile wheels to roll unobstructed would compliment the turnouts.Peco would be my candidate to do the job, and it would be imbedded rail track just like their N-scale code 55, except they'd draw new rail, with a visible code 45 above the rails. Since tieplate and spike details would be cosmetic only, spikeheads and tieplates could definitely be near-scale sized and proportioned, as well as the ties not only having scale length and width, but also height. As a possible bonus, branchline track could also be manufactured with lower visible rail height ( code 35 ) if the cavities are properly thought out, but in a perfect world, branchline track would have ties spaced further apart than mainline trackage, with the occasional crooked tie.Yeah yeah...dream on!!In the meantime, I'm using up my hoard of Railcraft code 55 and code 40 flex and continuing to hand-lay my turnouts.Cheerio!Bob Gilmore
I know that tooling for track systems is very expensive but it is IMHO the Number One problem in N Scale today. Companies with existing lines probably feel that a new line would just canibalize sales of track they already are selling. I think whoever brings out a well-engineered, robust, scale proportioned North American track system will quickly dominate the track market and drive many of us to build new or replace existing layouts creating new sales.
Turnouts in #4, #6, #8, #10 and #12, with compatible wyes and curved turnouts would be a good start. Flex with both concrete and wooden US style ties with fine spike/tieplate details to allow most modern medium and low profile wheels to roll unobstructed would compliment the turnouts.Peco would be my candidate to do the job, and it would be imbedded rail track just like their N-scale code 55, except they'd draw new rail, with a visible code 45 above the rails. Since tieplate and spike details would be cosmetic only, spikeheads and tieplates could definitely be near-scale sized and proportioned, as well as the ties not only having scale length and width, but also height. As a possible bonus, branchline track could also be manufactured with lower visible rail height ( code 35 ) if the cavities are properly thought out, but in a perfect world, branchline track would have ties spaced further apart than mainline trackage, with the occasional crooked tie.
Aside from the companies who would be reluctant to risk cannibalizing sales of their current track products, is there anyone else who, in your opinion, might be capable of developing and producing such a product line?