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MTL November Releases
« on: October 29, 2016, 04:29:55 AM »
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The TTX 89' flat runner pack is cool, but ... when did MTL start making helium cars?
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Re: MTL November Releases
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2016, 05:04:46 AM »
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It's the old Roco car...

...and since this thread is begging for a link  :D

https://www.micro-trains.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=63_64
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Re: MTL November Releases
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2016, 08:53:44 AM »
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Re: MTL November Releases
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2016, 08:56:09 AM »
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More CSX !  My wallet can't handle this  :scared:

I'm probably going to pass at this time, I don't recall seeing too many of these in my area.

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Re: MTL November Releases
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2016, 11:13:04 AM »
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Undecorated coaches- I'm in for several.  And also undec mail baggage.  I know, doesn't seem that exciting, but will let me finish off several projects.
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Re: MTL November Releases
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2016, 11:20:16 AM »
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when did MTL start making helium cars?

Micro-Trains says: "Car produced by Roco, decorated by Micro-Trains"

But those trucks look like they've been produced by Micro-Trains. And the couplers, too.

   Javier

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Re: MTL November Releases
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2016, 01:35:32 PM »
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I'll probably buy one of those APC containers to support the cause, even though I can't find any evidence of it's being a prototypical scheme for a rib-side box.   Although Walthers did do a similar one, they did it in silver with APLU markings.  More container variety is always acceptable on stack trains.

What's this mention of a TTX runner pack in the OP?

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Re: MTL November Releases
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2016, 04:10:48 PM »
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Micro-Trains says: "Car produced by Roco, decorated by Micro-Trains"

But those trucks look like they've been produced by Micro-Trains. And the couplers, too.

   Javier

A helium car, wow. An unusual but very interesting prototype. These were very heavy cars for their era, 200K CAPY on four axles. The Roco model is unfortunately rather dated. Maybe with some work, like thinning the thick braces and filling the truck mounted coupler gap, new running boards, better stirrups? Hmm...
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Re: MTL November Releases
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2016, 04:57:42 PM »
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A helium car, wow. An unusual but very interesting prototype. These were very heavy cars for their era, 200K CAPY on four axles. The Roco model is unfortunately rather dated. Maybe with some work, like thinning the thick braces and filling the truck mounted coupler gap, new running boards, better stirrups? Hmm...
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Re: MTL November Releases
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2016, 05:22:43 PM »
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I'll probably buy one of those APC containers to support the cause, even though I can't find any evidence of it's being a prototypical scheme for a rib-side box.   Although Walthers did do a similar one, they did it in silver with APLU markings.  More container variety is always acceptable on stack trains.

What's this mention of a TTX runner pack in the OP?

http://www.matts-place.com/intermodal/part3/images/aplu481788.jpg
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=882149
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=249905

not sure if the the MT container is APLU or APCU, but here's the scheme.  :)

edit: Digging a little deeper it looks like APCU is mostly if not all 53' containers so the MTL scheme should be correct  :)

Although I'm not sure about the 43xxxx number most seem to be in the 48xxxx series...
« Last Edit: October 29, 2016, 05:36:51 PM by Missaberoad »
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Re: MTL November Releases
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2016, 06:02:41 PM »
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I hope and wish that the Airslide Hoppers will be in pre-merger/pre-1990 paint schemes.  After the release of the NS/CSX hoppers, it would be nice if Micro-Trains would release hoppers in NW/Chessie paint schemes along with older GACX schemes.

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Re: MTL November Releases
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2016, 09:50:46 PM »
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http://www.matts-place.com/intermodal/part3/images/aplu481788.jpg
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=882149
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=249905

not sure if the the MT container is APLU or APCU, but here's the scheme.  :)

edit: Digging a little deeper it looks like APCU is mostly if not all 53' containers so the MTL scheme should be correct  :)

Although I'm not sure about the 43xxxx number most seem to be in the 48xxxx series...

Yeah, those are good prototypes for the scheme Walthers did.  They have APC logos but the actual reporting marks are APLU.   The MTL version seems to have APCU marks and be painted white, not silver.  I don't know, maybe I'm misjudging the color of the MTL photo.  Also in all those links you posted it seems like the reporting marks might be patched, so maybe all those used to be APCU in the 43xxx series, but that's largely speculation. 

If it is supposed to be the same scheme as the Walthers then that's disappointing.   Some of those Walthers containers were among the first and only mail order model railroading items I bought as a teenager, over 20 years ago (before the internet took over as discussed in that other thread).   Walthers did about 5 schemes in the first release and never in two decades did any new artwork, although they did produce a couple more runs of the same thing.   So then MTL tools its own and the first release is ... one of the same schemes, seriously?   As someone said in another thread, I just don't understand manufacturers sometimes.   

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Re: MTL November Releases
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2016, 01:16:54 AM »
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I'll probably buy one of those APC containers to support the cause, even though I can't find any evidence of it's being a prototypical scheme for a rib-side box.   Although Walthers did do a similar one, they did it in silver with APLU markings.  More container variety is always acceptable on stack trains.

What's this mention of a TTX runner pack in the OP?



Scroll down to Runner Pack section. MTL should also do these in the old brown TTX scheme, and did any of these cars carry the PRR TrucTrain logo?

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Re: MTL November Releases
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2016, 09:00:46 AM »
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Yeah, those are good prototypes for the scheme Walthers did.  They have APC logos but the actual reporting marks are APLU.   The MTL version seems to have APCU marks and be painted white, not silver.  I don't know, maybe I'm misjudging the color of the MTL photo.  Also in all those links you posted it seems like the reporting marks might be patched, so maybe all those used to be APCU in the 43xxx series, but that's largely speculation. 

If it is supposed to be the same scheme as the Walthers then that's disappointing.   Some of those Walthers containers were among the first and only mail order model railroading items I bought as a teenager, over 20 years ago (before the internet took over as discussed in that other thread).   Walthers did about 5 schemes in the first release and never in two decades did any new artwork, although they did produce a couple more runs of the same thing.   So then MTL tools its own and the first release is ... one of the same schemes, seriously?   As someone said in another thread, I just don't understand manufacturers sometimes.   

It looks silver to me, (compare it to the white on the McCloud River Box) but I guess we'll have to wait an see (or see MBK's photos on the 12th)

I'm also wondering about the APCU reporting marks, from online photos it looks like it was used on 53' containers not 48'...

@Shipsure is there a photo we can reference to settle this?  :D :D
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Re: MTL November Releases
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2016, 02:16:56 PM »
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A helium car, wow. An unusual but very interesting prototype. These were very heavy cars for their era, 200K CAPY on four axles. The Roco model is unfortunately rather dated. Maybe with some work, like thinning the thick braces and filling the truck mounted coupler gap, new running boards, better stirrups? Hmm...
Otto K.

Was really hoping for an updated version to go with mine:

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But I'm thinking along Otto's lines...