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garethashenden

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Handrails before or after painting?
« on: April 29, 2016, 12:42:36 PM »
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I'm working on a couple of F units and fitting them with wire handrails. Is it better to fit them before painting, so that they get painted with the shell, or after decalling, so that it's easier to apply the decals? They're Boston & Maine engines, so there are yellow stripes that go behind the handrails.
I can see good reasons to do it both ways, so I'm looking for opinions.

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Re: Handrails before or after painting?
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2016, 01:00:31 PM »
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I would say that if there is decal under the handrail, I would install it after decaling.  Also if the handrail is using contrasting color, do it after painting the body.  Even is the handrail was the same color, since you are painting the entire model with the same paint, the color match will not be a problem.

The only benefit I see in installing handrails before painting is that the paint will cover any possible glue spots (assuming some glue ends up visible around the handrail).  But if they are glued using thin CA from the inside, then that should not be an issue with handrails installed before or after painting.

Another way to hide any possible glue staining would be not to spray the final clear coat until after all the items are glued to the shell.
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Re: Handrails before or after painting?
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2016, 01:32:03 PM »
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It's very paint-scheme and locomotive specific.

I do soldered-wire brass handrails on pretty much of everything, and I'll paint the shell up, do basic decaling where I can't reach, then put on the handrails and brush-paint the final rails and detail work.

One thing I would recommend is to drill all the holes, and do all the fitting for what you can (grabs), before that first paint.   What I usually find is that excessive handling of the shell post-paint causes most of the problems so whatever steps you can do to simply handle it less is a good thing.  So I'll do all the hole-drilling and detail fitting in the shell I can, test mount anything I can, remove what is in the way, etc. that doesn't interfere with decals, then paint, put the final decals and details on, touch up with a brush, then whatever final seal coat you choose.

My 'worst case' has always been the noses of my Santa Fe CF7's, with the nose herald under the vertical nose handrails, three side grabs, and also behind the sill handrails.  Absolutely impossible to decal if the handrails are on first.
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Re: Handrails before or after painting?
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2016, 02:01:26 PM »
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Very true. I neglected to mention hole drilling and test-fitting as a given, but it does make sense to mention that very important step.
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Re: Handrails before or after painting?
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2016, 05:48:17 PM »
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Thanks. That's how I was leaning. I've got a couple more holes to drill, then I'll paint the shell and install the handrails.