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Request to Atlas: B36-7
« on: June 15, 2016, 12:32:29 PM »
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Cory and Paul....
 
Since you  are doing some "alternate history" things, how about the B36-7 in Conrail Classic Can Opener... (original)

(CR's B36-7's were slightly different from other production units)

Thanks,

- Lou

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Re: Request to Atlas: B36-7
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2016, 02:42:04 PM »
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Well, since it's been more than a year-and-a-half since he posted this, maybe you can now talk Cory into it.

Ok, I've been having Ron help me out a bit (well, really, a lot...). If you guys can forgive 1) the 1' length difference, 2) the extra grill on the engineer's side, and 3) the difference in the battery boxes on the conductors side, then, I'll throw SBD and CSX on the run I'm planning for the next catalog. I am more than likely going to skip Conrail as a B36 as I'd rather offer a B23...  8)

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Re: Request to Atlas: B36-7
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2016, 02:42:37 PM »
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Cory and Paul....
 
Since you  are doing some "alternate history" things, how about the B36-7 in Conrail Classic Can Opener... (original)

(CR's B36-7's were slightly different from other production units)

Thanks,

- Lou



I know they'd technically be foobs, but I'd get a trio of em anyway.

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Re: Request to Atlas: B36-7
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2016, 03:00:31 PM »
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What are the differences?

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Re: Request to Atlas: B36-7
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2016, 03:25:49 PM »
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What are the differences?

I think the CR units are shorter - by about a foot, along with some other differences...

Lashed up with 1-2 B40-8's or GP40-2's on a MAIL train,  no one is going to care.

Well, at least I don't care!!  :)

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Re: Request to Atlas: B36-7
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2016, 03:45:25 PM »
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And they could also make some B30-7 and B36-7 for CSX in YN2, B30-7 5895 was the first unit to wear that scheme.
Which ever side of the track I am on is the right side.

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Re: Request to Atlas: B36-7
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2016, 07:22:36 PM »
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It would be interesting to know what the exact differences were, because I'm pretty sure the Atlas B36-7 has a number of compromises to allow it to share parts with the B30-7 and B23-7. It may be close to the Conrail model already...


Whatever the case someone needs to make one with the elephant ears :)

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1751748

 
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Re: Request to Atlas: B36-7
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2016, 09:00:10 AM »
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Oh man, those are awesome.

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Re: Request to Atlas: B36-7
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2016, 11:36:08 AM »
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It would be interesting to know what the exact differences were, because I'm pretty sure the Atlas B36-7 has a number of compromises to allow it to share parts with the B30-7 and B23-7. It may be close to the Conrail model already...


Whatever the case someone needs to make one with the elephant ears :)

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1751748

Virtually every Canadian GP38,40, AC & -2 are inaccurate in many ways that are glaring (depending on how much of a rivet counter one happens to be)... headlights between numberboards instead of in nose, do not have the 'snow steps' that were pretty much a universal feature for decades, no class lights, no bell between numberboards, plus other more nit-picky items. And the C630's all have the wrong trucks.

So a CR B36-7 that is a foot too long would be forgivable in most circles. I remember well the Pig Boats on the WLR... they were CR's coolest power in their era.

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Re: Request to Atlas: B36-7
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2016, 11:49:07 AM »
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... Whatever the case someone needs to make one with the elephant ears :)

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1751748

OK... now I'm mystified. Why do they have these panels? SP's elephant ears were designed to pick-up the lower, cooler air in tunnels and snow sheds, eventually resulting in the T-2 radiator design. That can't be it... not a lot of snow sheds on CR, and, besides, the GE radiators already had low(er) intakes. Snow shields? Like on UP E-units and C855s? Designed to keep from sucking Wyoming blizzard snow into the carbody? No, CR never made it to Wyoming... at least the last time I checked. :facepalm:

What do these things accomplish, other than to frustrate modelers? Leaf-suck guards for New England autumns?

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Re: Request to Atlas: B36-7
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2016, 12:04:19 PM »
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They were sound baffles to help reduce noise emissions from the engine fan.
Its debated if they actually worked or not, but GE never repeated the experiment and most were removed by the end of the 1980's.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4251086

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=97388

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2254329

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2193197

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Re: Request to Atlas: B36-7
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2016, 12:17:32 PM »
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Oh, that's right. Thanks. I forgot about all the noise :trollface: about noise in the late '70s. I now recall our railfan group's hand-wringing about the "slush-box" mufflers on the SDP40Fs and Dash-2s, and EMD "Q-fans".

I can edu-surmise that in the end the panels were removed because they didn't accomplish much relative to exhaust noise, or, if they had a acoustic suppression surface on the walkway side, became maintenance issues.