Heavyweight Passenger cars.

[Bobster]

John,

I ordered 2 sets today.   These parts are based on Pullman plans and close up pictures I took of the vents and fans on a Pullman heavyweight car in Illinois in October 2015.  I hope the parts look as good as your work on the designs.  Thank you for your patience in working with me.

Bob Lipka

[jmlaboda]

You might want to offer a set with more Garlands since these usually out numbered the square fan detail by 4 to 1.  Would make it much better for modelers since they would not have to buy multiple sets of the original sprue only to have fans left over.

[Lemosteam]

@Bobster , thank you, I sincerely hope they work great.

@jmlaboda , let's just say that I'll take your expert advice on that.  So 4 fans + 16 vents, in a two pack would be 8 fans and 32 vents.  What did they install one vent every other window?  Were they shifted one side forward of the other or anything like that or were they directly opposite one another?

[jmlaboda]

Placement varied from car type to car type and a lot of cars had the Garland vents without many fans.











The introduction of air ducts changed things in a big way with a lot less vents and fans being used...





A lot of business cars had another rule of thumb for fans and vents... at least before being rebuilt with arched roofs...

[Lemosteam]

Thanks for those @jmlaboda , is it OK if I add a link you your site on Shapeways since these parts were added so randomly?

I also notice in the Pennsy pic that the fan blades are visible. Other photo evidence I have shows a cover over the fan blades with an opening around the circumference (as I have modeled). Have you seen this as well?  I suspect this was to keep debris out of the fan.  Maybe I should offer 16 vents with 4 each of both types of fan so the modeler has a choice depending on the prototype.

[jmlaboda]

Lemosteam... email sent.

[Bobster]

Greetings,

So many cars, so many variations...WOW!   So many cars I looked at had ducting on one side and fans and vents an the other.   That Business car is wild, what does the other side look like?  The most I found was 14 vents and six fans.  Don't remember what is was though.  It did come off JML's web site.

Bob

[jmlaboda]

Don't know what was on the other side of N&W 103 but suspect that it was something like what was done on Erie 1 which became EL 1.  Both were built to the same floorplan with some differences occurring later on as cars were updated...

[Ed Kapuscinski]

Damn, if that scene doesn't look like an in-progress model railroad.

[Lemosteam]

So I have updated the Keystone Details kit to have 4 covered and 4 uncovered fans with 16 vents:



This way folks can model pre and post air conditioned fans (cover added) to suit the pictures of the cars they are modeling.

[Cajonpassfan]

Wow, that's one good looking car
Otto K.

[OldEastRR]

Damn, if that scene doesn't look like an in-progress model railroad.

Yeah, and look at those steep dirt embankments -- not prototypical! The guy got ballast all over the ties and fishplates -- what an amateur!

[jmlaboda]

Bought two sets myself though it will be a while before I am ready to use them.  At least these details are now available and I really do hope that modelers will avail themselves of having such available... they are great detail part additions well worth looking at.

[Lemosteam]

Keystone Details thanks you for that @jmlaboda !  I hoe they serve your purposes well.  I bought a set myself!