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Kato Mikado flange problem.
« on: December 06, 2015, 10:06:28 AM »
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Well I seem to have a problem that I was unaware of with the Kato Mikado. The lead truck and trailing truck seem to have deeper flanges than the drivers and tender trucks have.  :x  I do not own one of these to compare with. Is this a problem with all of them? I found this out while doing a Decoder install for a friend.  It's a problem that I can fix but was not aware that they would not run on C55 track out of the box.

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Re: Kato Mikado flange problem.
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2015, 02:22:55 PM »
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That was a problem on all the first-run Kato Mikados. They corrected it after that. Remember, those engines came out in the mid 90s, when code 55 was still just catching on.

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Re: Kato Mikado flange problem.
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2015, 03:01:17 PM »
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So what's the solution?
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Re: Kato Mikado flange problem.
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2015, 04:20:02 PM »
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Jon,

not being contradictory but I have one from the very 1st run and it (KATO Mike) has never shown problems with pony or trailing truck on code 55 rail. May be something causing the problem other than flanges.  What ? ? ? ? ?

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Re: Kato Mikado flange problem.
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2015, 04:35:56 PM »
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It depends on which code 55 rail you are talking about.  On Peco or ME, it will run fine.  But on Atlas, no.
It is also a matter of how fussy you are.  Since they are only trailing and pilot trucks, some folks seem to run them
and not notice or care about the slight "buzz" on the Atlas code 55 ties.  The drivers and tender wheels are okay, so
it pretty much does work on Atlas track.

As far as the "fix":

You can replace the pilot truck wheelset with a Fox Valley or some other 33".  The trailing truck is still available as a part direct
from Kato at katousa.com - luckily.  That is a larger diameter wheel, so when those run out, you'll have to hunt for some wheelset
in another steam loco that you can swap in there.

Personally, I have just removed the trailing truck wheelset, pressed one wheel off with a wheel puller, chucked the axle in a Dremel, and
turned down the flange with a diamond file.   Then swap, chuck, and turn the other one.
It's not very hard to do.  Make sure you dress it off with some 800 grit sandpaper
when you are done.  It really does help the wheel glide more smoothly against the rails.  A file leaves a pretty rough
surface, even if it doesn't look that way to your naked eye.

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Re: Kato Mikado flange problem.
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2015, 04:46:19 PM »
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Yes, I failed to mention that my experience has been with PECO code 55.

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Re: Kato Mikado flange problem.
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2015, 07:42:46 PM »
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Thanks guys for the help. Yes Max this would be from the first run. As to what I was going to do, Max hit it right on the nail!!

Thanks,
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Re: Kato Mikado flange problem.
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2015, 08:11:49 AM »
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As far as the "fix":

You can replace the pilot truck wheelset with a Fox Valley or some other 33".  The trailing truck is still available as a part direct
from Kato at katousa.com - luckily.  That is a larger diameter wheel, so when those run out, you'll have to hunt for some wheelset
in another steam loco that you can swap in there.

Personally, I have just removed the trailing truck wheelset, pressed one wheel off with a wheel puller, chucked the axle in a Dremel, and
turned down the flange with a diamond file.   Then swap, chuck, and turn the other one.
It's not very hard to do.  Make sure you dress it off with some 800 grit sandpaper
when you are done.  It really does help the wheel glide more smoothly against the rails.  A file leaves a pretty rough
surface, even if it doesn't look that way to your naked eye.


Max, thanks.  I continue to learn so much from this forum.
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