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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2015, 10:30:45 PM »
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Makes me wonder if one could use a Bachmann 2-10-2 mech and that K4 motor to make a proper Russian decapod.

Or we just all lobby Bachmann to finally produce Russian decapods in N.


Well, that's an interesting thought, Bachmann announced it some years ago and then backed out for whatever reason.
It may not be obvious just how light and diminuitive the Russian Decapod was/is. It had 52" drivers and a fixed wheelbase of under 19' for all five drivers. In part because of the enormous flanges, the Trix has a fixed wheelbase over 23'. The Bachmann is certainly closer in size than the Trix, see below,  and its motor is in the boiler, not the cab. But that's probably another project if someone wanted to take it on...
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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2015, 04:05:49 PM »
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Well, that's an interesting thought, Bachmann announced it some years ago and then backed out for whatever reason.
It may not be obvious just how light and diminuitive the Russian Decapod was/is. It had 52" drivers and a fixed wheelbase of under 19' for all five drivers. In part because of the enormous flanges, the Trix has a fixed wheelbase over 23'. The Bachmann is certainly closer in size than the Trix, see below,  and its motor is in the boiler, not the cab. But that's probably another project if someone wanted to take it on...
Otto K.

Now I actually am beginning to consider making a Russian decapod. An actual Russian one of course.
I shall have to keep my eyes out for a Bachmann 2-10-2 on the cheap.
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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2015, 05:07:34 PM »
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Now I actually am beginning to consider making a Russian decapod. An actual Russian one of course.

You're going to model wide-gauge in N scale?  Cool!  ;)
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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2015, 05:25:42 PM »
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I just got in the Bacmann 2-10-2  the drivers are seemingly perfect fo the Russian Decapod... it is a sweet emgine, really don't know why Bachmann doesn't use the motor from the K4 and this chassi to make a very nice Russian Decapod

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« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2015, 05:26:04 PM »
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You're going to model wide-gauge in N scale?  Cool!  ;)

I considered it once, very briefly. It's about 9.6mm gauge I believe.

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« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2015, 05:38:30 PM »
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I just got in the Bacmann 2-10-2  the drivers are seemingly perfect fo the Russian Decapod... it is a sweet emgine, really don't know why Bachmann doesn't use the motor from the K4 and this chassi to make a very nice Russian Decapod

Because when the decapod was originally produced Bachmann didn't yet have those motors. Coreless motors were introduced in their later model locos (I think it was the Alco 2-6-0).  Maybe if they ever re-run this model they will modify the chassis to use coreless motor.
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« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2015, 05:40:19 PM »
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the Decapods sold in the USA and used here were largely converted to standard gauge.
it is possible that cutting off the rear of the frame a reasonable decapod could be created, the boiler and cab wouls have to be scratchbuilt.

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« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2015, 07:26:20 PM »
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You're going to model wide-gauge in N scale?  Cool!  ;)

99% sure I won't do that. The gauge difference in N is so tiny that it isn't worth attempting for something that only a side interest.


I considered it once, very briefly. It's about 9.6mm gauge I believe.

I briefly considered doing GWR broad gauge in 2mm. The true 7'1/4th" works out to 14.04mm.

If I was to do Russian broad gauge in N, I'd probably just lay 2mmFS track. Close enough.
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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2015, 07:40:41 PM »
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alledgedly thers a Bachmann 2-10-0 out there.. i just orderd / paid for one from Texnrails.. we shall see... to my knowledge, this engine was never made.. although I know there is such a creature in HO, I am doubting this is a reality in N scale..
it coud be that my projet wil be sitting next to the dash 8 I started back in 1990!


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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2015, 07:54:36 PM »
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alledgedly thers a Bachmann 2-10-0 out there.. i just orderd / paid for one from Texnrails.. we shall see... to my knowledge, this engine was never made.. although I know there is such a creature in HO, I am doubting this is a reality in N scale..
it coud be that my projet wil be sitting next to the dash 8 I started back in 1990!
I wouldn't hold my breath

http://www.blwnscale.com/bachmann-2-10-0-decapod.htm

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« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2015, 08:19:03 PM »
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alledgedly thers a Bachmann 2-10-0 out there.. i just orderd / paid for one from Texnrails.. we shall see... to my knowledge, this engine was never made.. although I know there is such a creature in HO, I am doubting this is a reality in N scale..
it coud be that my projet wil be sitting next to the dash 8 I started back in 1990!

If you ordered it through the Tex N Rails website, don't expect much.   There is no such item listed at Bachmann's website, and
my experience with Tex N Rails is that they have tons of stuff listed on that site that they do not actually have.
If you telephone them and get a call back, that's the only way to know if they have what's listed there.  I avoid that store
for this reason, among others.  I apologize for this being off-topic, but it is very relevant to this project.
Making this engine based on a Bachmann N Scale 2-10-0 decapod is not possible because they do not exist, and any
dealer still listing and taking money for them is being sloppy at best.


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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2015, 09:06:21 PM »
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as I thought.. have been dealing with them at train shows.
oh well it look like I will need to utilize a credit!  LOL

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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2015, 10:06:26 PM »
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Looking at the BLW site, This model has been dropped from current production schedule
Originally announced in late '06 ... Bachmann has still not produced this item and we have confirmed that it is not on their current production schedule.
As a result, BLW has cancelled all open reservations for this model.


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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2015, 11:07:20 AM »
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an update on the "order" from Texnraila:  Apparently it is an old website and the new one isn't online yet.
So the order never happened!

maybe we should strt an open letter to Bachmann???

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« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2015, 11:41:41 AM »
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maybe we should strt an open letter to Bachmann???

Good luck with that.  Several years ago I contemplated doing just that to get Micro Trains to produce a drop-in coupler retrofit for the unreliable Kato couplers, but I decided that it would be waste of time. Ever tried herding cats?  :D  People often bitch and complain about things, but when it comes to putting "boots on the ground", nobody wants to do it.

Sorry for the OT post (well, it is elated to your question).
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