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craigolio1

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Re: BC Rail- Fictional Esquimalt & Nanaimo Subdivision 1985-1999
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2015, 09:57:18 AM »
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Thanks for the interest Steve.

Progress has been nil lately. I was studying for a test at work for 6 months and now the nicer weather has me doing a large landscaping project.

I'll post progress as it happens for sure. I wish it could be sooner and not later.

Craig

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Re: BC Rail- Fictional Esquimalt & Nanaimo Subdivision 1985-1999
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2015, 07:46:02 PM »
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Craig,
Have you gotten back to the layout yet?
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Re: BC Rail- Fictional Esquimalt & Nanaimo Subdivision 1985-1999
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2015, 11:32:54 PM »
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Unfortunately not. I don't have the funds to finish the room right now so I'm working on my stockpile of loco kits.

Thanks for the interest.

Craig

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Re: BC Rail- Fictional Esquimalt & Nanaimo Subdivision 1985-1999
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2015, 02:48:54 PM »
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Thanks for the update. Booy I miss the TB groups for the Diesel Detailing & Kitbashing
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Re: BC Rail- Fictional Esquimalt & Nanaimo Subdivision 1985-1999
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2015, 09:45:09 PM »
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I havnt gone on there in ages. Are they no longer in use?

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Re: BC Rail- Fictional Esquimalt & Nanaimo Subdivision 1985-1999
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2015, 05:30:15 PM »
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They reformatted the site and changed a bunch and took away the groups.
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Re: BC Rail- Fictional Esquimalt & Nanaimo Subdivision 1985-1999
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2015, 06:56:23 PM »
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Lame. We should start something here. I really enjoyed those and have done a lot of work my self. I just havnt documented anything, haha.

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Re: BC Rail- Fictional Esquimalt & Nanaimo Subdivision 1985-1999
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2016, 03:19:09 PM »
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I'm into a bit of track planning mode now as I have cleaned out that colossal mess you see in the above photos, mostly completed the framing and electrical, and I'm planning the first phase of the bench work which will be the Welcox yard.  Before bench work can be planned though I need to have an idea of where the tracks will go.

I'd like to discuss two ideas I have for the design of the yard.  Pictured below is a drawing that shows the track layout of the yard I'm modelling and I have the room to make a pretty fair representation of it, compressed of course. Some tracks will need to be eliminated and obviously shortened to make it fit.  I'm also fully aware that turnouts don't layout on plywood like they do in the diagram below.  I'll print out a whole pile of templates and play with them to help see what really fits.



From what I understand the two central 4 track yards, stacked one above the other and labeled A and B, were the arrival and departure yards.






 Below that are a scale track and I think two caboose service tracks. 




To the left of the yard are 3 RIP tracks and 3 locomotive service tracks:





and to the left of that is the C yard which stored cars staged to be loaded on the ferry.






Here are my two designs:

One



Benefits:

-more faithful to the prototype
-longer yard tracks
-can include the C yard if I choose

Negatives:

-having the C yard on the opposite wall will make the aisle congested for two operators
-not much of a lead into the yard from  the helix
-the back drop will need to be an industrial / water front which I feel is harder to segue into and hide edges




Two



Benefits:

-No track on opposite wall to add congestion - two operators can work side by side
-long lead along wall allows operator to see the train for a while before having to leave the room-i can put a grade there equal to the helix to test trains before committing.  It's down hill once entering the helix but they have to get back up and almost trains originate and terminate in this yard.
-maybe put a passing siding at the back to make operations better
-back drop is rising landscape to a tree line with a city-scape behind it


Negatives:

-Likely no C yard which is less prototypical
-main line behind the yard is not prototypical
-I don't like the look of that massive balloon track at the left required to get trains out and back the other direction.
-adding that test grade will add a turn to the helix
-I don't think the ferry slip looks very plausible there on the right but at least the operator there won't be in the way of anyone else.


Now that I've written down some negatives and positives of each I'm leaning toward option two as being better for operations. 

I'm not sure if it matters for this discussion but track will be Micro Engineering C40 flex with hand laid #6 turnouts using Fasttracks fixtures.  The minimum mainline radius is intended to be 18" but may wind up 16" in a few spots.

Thanks for any input and discussion.

Craig
« Last Edit: January 24, 2016, 03:32:15 PM by craigolio1 »

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Re: BC Rail- Fictional Esquimalt & Nanaimo Subdivision 1985-1999
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2016, 03:35:16 PM »
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I'm the last person to give informed perspective on yard design, but I'll take a crack.  I like option 1, mostly because I don't like the balloon track.  How about flipping the main yard to move the operator's position to the other side of the room from yard C?   Yard C and the ferry operation are very interesting and attractive, it seems to me. 

Just some thoughts.  Good to see you thinking about moving forward.

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Re: BC Rail- Fictional Esquimalt & Nanaimo Subdivision 1985-1999
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2016, 12:13:08 PM »
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Thanks for weighing in Scott. I'm not sure I follow. I did flip the yard for option 2 which resulted in the need for ye balloon track for entry. I'm obviously not visualizing your suggestion.


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Re: BC Rail- Fictional Esquimalt & Nanaimo Subdivision 1985-1999
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2016, 12:43:00 PM »
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I would leave yard C as indicated in Option 1, but flip the yard as in Option 2.  That would eliminate the operator bottleneck you mentioned, will retaining the elements.  It scrambles the relative location, but I don't think that is too problematic?  I am not a fan of the balloon track in Option 2.

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Re: BC Rail- Fictional Esquimalt & Nanaimo Subdivision 1985-1999
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2016, 01:13:51 PM »
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Ahhh I see. So put the engine service and rip track over on the right to move that activity over there. Good idea.


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Re: BC Rail- Fictional Esquimalt & Nanaimo Subdivision 1985-1999
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2016, 01:11:55 AM »
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Craig,

You don't go by another handle (ENR3005) on another forum, do you?

Cheers!
Marc

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Re: BC Rail- Fictional Esquimalt & Nanaimo Subdivision 1985-1999
« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2016, 06:41:16 AM »
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No not me. I'm always craigolio1 or just Craig.

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Re: BC Rail- Fictional Esquimalt & Nanaimo Subdivision 1985-1999
« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2016, 01:32:31 PM »
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Thanks Craig. There's a guy on RWA working on a route for Railworks which reminded me of your project.

http://www.railworksamerica.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7307

Cheers!
Marc