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Re: Heritage scheme from way back (sorta)
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2015, 07:24:26 AM »
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Very nice, but that looks like a 3-bay hopper.

[hint]I could use one of these for a cement hopper on TBC[/hint].  It would go nicely with the Smuftastic decal that I have from Tom.   :lol:

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Re: Heritage scheme from way back (sorta)
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2015, 03:16:44 PM »
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I know Gary. I am waiting for the proper 2-bay hoppers to arrive (I bought them on eBay 2 days ago). I was just messing around with a scan of a 4-bay hopper I had already scanned for the ICHABOD project.
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Re: Heritage scheme from way back (sorta)
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2015, 04:20:37 AM »
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I now have the correct car.  The model is little different than the 1:1 car (the model's body seems noticeably taller, and there are many small detail differences). Then of course is the ride height issue too. But I wonder if there is some sort of lens distortion in the prototype photo cauaing the height distortion.  Anyways, I'll need to so some more artwork tweaking.

I wonder what font is used for the reporting marks. RR Gothic maybe?

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Re: Heritage scheme from way back (sorta)
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2015, 07:32:06 AM »
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I think the issue lies in the fact that the prototype is a different car then the acf car imrc based their model on..
Notice the space between the bays, it is a longer car.

You did pick the closest match avalible in n however, and so far your work is amazing!

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Re: Heritage scheme from way back (sorta)
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2015, 10:21:27 AM »
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SP had their own roman font. railfonts.com recently added an SP roman, but it's the version just before what's on that car. About as close as what you have there.
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Re: Heritage scheme from way back (sorta)
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2015, 12:27:25 PM »
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Interesting.  The data on the railcarphotos page for this car says it's an ACF 2970 hopper which is what I thought the IMRC car was based on.  FWIW, the IMRC models I have with legible printing list cuft 2890.  The model measures 11' x 35' (side sill to roof walk and end cage to end cage).  If I assume the proto trucks are 100T with a 5'9" wheelbase, I get the proto hopper measuring ~11' x 38', which is about 8% longer.  Oddly, it looks like you would need to increase the decal height by about 15% to reach the corresponding height on the model, so I can't explain that.

I think the artwork you have looks great in any case - I wouldn't try to resize it if I were you.

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Re: Heritage scheme from way back (sorta)
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2015, 12:52:55 PM »
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Both cars are still acf 2970 models however they are different phases
The version sp bought is 3ft longer than the late 1970s version imrc has made...

Ironically the late version is the same length as the 1960s version Athearn made. :)

Sorry I wasn't clearer this morning, blame the bus and minus 38 windchill :D

http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/acf/cf2971.htm

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Re: Heritage scheme from way back (sorta)
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2015, 04:04:59 PM »
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Interesting info.  Yes, the prototype does appear longer (now confirmed).  I am not planning on vertically stretching the artwork.  I like the current proportions of the American loco. I have a modified artwork where cleaned up the horizontal highlight lines on the lower sill. I also added slightly more height to that area as the decal has to wrap around the sill.

By editing I meant more cleanup and contrast enhancements (so it prints well on my Alps printer).  My original plan was to have the original car lettering through holes in the artwork (just like it was done on the 1:1 car).  But the placement of the lettering is so different on the model that to me it would lose the flavor).

So my current thought is to print the "SP" and the car number corresponding the the IM car's original lettering along with the graffiti image.  That way I won't have to renumber the car.  The background will not be a problem as I will brush-paint the gesso color (very light gray) over the entire side before applying the decal (just like it was done on the actual car.
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