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HO to n scale layout conversion
« on: July 04, 2014, 03:38:29 AM »
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I have a layout in mind that I want to build but it is HO but I want to convert it to n scale and I know the conversion is 54.1 % ratio from ha to n and was wondering if anyone out there would like to take on the task as I keep over thinking the plans and it start to get bigger than what it is supposed to be its an old passenger terminal layout and as I have a lot of passenger items this would be perfect as it is a bi level layout and measures 10 by 20 in ha scale so it will be a nice layout for the room I have any help would be appreciated and I'm using all  Kato track and the bad part is it has 13 curved switches and Kato does not make these as Tomix does but at 57.00 a pop this alone is going to be expensive but had thought of using Atlas or Shinohara ( excuse the typo) thanks again.

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Re: HO to n scale layout conversion
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2014, 10:48:31 AM »
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Unsure of what you are asking here.  If you have the HO plans, and you know to reduce it 54% for N, you already know what your footprint is.  Using Atlas flex track would allow you to follow the track plan exactly without having to adjust for sectional track, and is your best option if you are incorporating a number of curved turnouts.
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Re: HO to n scale layout conversion
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2014, 11:03:50 AM »
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You probably will not be able to get the N scale version to 1/2 of the size of HO. That's because a few things can't be directly scaled. Aisle width will need to remain the same because the human standing in it will not be smaller. Lengths may not reduce depending on the vertical separation between levels and the method of making the change, Grade stays the same no matter the scale and the only way to reduce it is to increase the run or reduce the rise. The rise is tough to reduce because there is still that problem of fitting humans in.

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Re: HO to n scale layout conversion
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2014, 11:18:59 AM »
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If all you really want to do is just reduce it 54% then all you need is a photocopier.  However it sounds like you do need to make some modifications and adaptations, in which case a track planning program like Anyrail is well worth the investment to learn and will be invaluable to making a plan that will far better suit your space and needs.  There are plenty of very knowledgeable folks here on TRW who will be more than happy to help and advise you.

What is your expertise level?   It's not clear from your description, but it sounds like you have something rather ambitious in mind.

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Re: HO to n scale layout conversion
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2014, 12:17:10 PM »
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I scaled down the Jerome and Southwestern from to HO to N and found I had to make it a little big bigger.  This may owe to the fact that John Olson did chop and massage some of the switches to work in confined areas.  What saved the day for me was using the Set Track short switches from Peco. 

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Re: HO to n scale layout conversion
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2014, 02:21:52 PM »
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to reduce in a track for track process, one needs the original plan
if you attach a copy in graphic image file (.jpg, .png, .gif) and
tell me me current dimensions of total width and length I will do so
but I need the current plan to follow.

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Re: HO to n scale layout conversion
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2014, 05:56:32 PM »
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Post it here and one of the resident track planners will do it for you for fun  :D
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Re: HO to n scale layout conversion
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2014, 09:14:46 PM »
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Why reduce it unless your pressed for space. I would just build the HO layout with N scale track.
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Re: HO to n scale layout conversion
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2014, 11:23:55 PM »
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The layout is the metropolitan passenger terminal layout in the model railroader magazine and layout downloads by Stan sweet I believe and I'm having a problem downloading the upper and lower drawings so hopefully someone can help thanks again for all your advice.

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Re: HO to n scale layout conversion
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2014, 12:19:10 AM »
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The freelanced Metropolitan Union Passenger Terminal by Stan Sweatt. Yes, but unless you have the issue of MR or a membership to MR you will not have a clear enough track plan to work with. And, with it being a copyrighted article and drawing (I am guessing) you will need the approval of the copyright holder to scan and post here as a graphic file. I myself stopped my subscription toe MR a couple years ago, so I cannot access it.

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Re: HO to n scale layout conversion
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2014, 08:02:23 AM »
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I had contacted him a year or so ago and asked him some questions and then told him I was doing this in n scale he sent me a more detailed cad drawing than was published in MR and told me keep him informed of my progress , which I haven't made any yet, but that's the layout.

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Re: HO to n scale layout conversion
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2014, 11:57:49 AM »
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the graphic available to those not subscribed to MR is far too small to see all but most of the mainline track
I have tried various ways of enlarging the graphic but cannot do so without losing crispness and definition of the plan
just a blur of lines
if you are a subscriber, you have access to larger graphics. download and save, then -- having his permission -- post
it here as an attachment to a post
then there will be something to work with

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Re: HO to n scale layout conversion
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2014, 02:13:22 PM »
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I have a layout in mind that I want to build but it is HO but I want to convert it to n scale and I know the conversion is 54.1 % ratio from ha to n and was wondering if anyone out there would like to take on the task as I keep over thinking the plans and it start to get bigger than what it is supposed to be its an old passenger terminal layout and as I have a lot of passenger items this would be perfect as it is a bi level layout and measures 10 by 20 in ha scale so it will be a nice layout for the room I have any help would be appreciated and I'm using all  Kato track and the bad part is it has 13 curved switches and Kato does not make these as Tomix does but at 57.00 a pop this alone is going to be expensive but had thought of using Atlas or Shinohara ( excuse the typo) thanks again.

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Re: HO to n scale layout conversion
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2014, 02:47:46 PM »
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also, need to know the dimensions of the space you are trying to fit the plan in to.
the sooner you get those things here the sooner some one can have a look and
work on a plan

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Re: HO to n scale layout conversion
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2014, 02:48:12 PM »
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