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ljudice

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Early/mid 1990's Intermodal
« on: June 16, 2014, 11:45:42 PM »
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Sanity check please on appropriate equipment for use on a non-stack cleared corridor:

 -  Atlas RTTX 89' flats
 - Modified Atlas TT TTAX's into TTWX Twin-45 configuration
 - BLMA RTTX
 - BLMA TT  TTX flats - some would still be floating around
 - Some Frontrunners
 - Athearn 48' well cars (Single stack)
 - DI Twin Stack  (single stack)
 - Forthcoming Atlas TTCX
 - Modified 60' flat (Intermountain/Nscale Kits) into TTCX

Unlikely to see PS 85' cars in intermodal service.  No TTAX's left by this time...

Thanks...

I believe in searching through my photos that PS 85' cars formed the ITIX fleet of cars that carried sludge from NJ to Texas in this era. 


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Re: Early/mid 1990's Intermodal
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2014, 12:12:47 AM »
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The 'TTX' logo was introduced in 1991 or 1992.  So 'early 1990's' would be primarily the 'TT' logo.

Double stack cars were repainted quickly and a 'TT' car would have been rare by '93, but other cars were re-logo'd more slowly.  A mix of 'TTX' and 'TT' flats and spines would still be fine for the 'mid 1990s'.   I even saw a 'TT' autorack around 2005.

I believe there would have still been a bunch of KTTX around in 1990, but others may correct me on that.  I also have a photo of an 'ATTX' 89footer, but I can't tell you much about that series.

Your list is all good so far, but you could add some more things to it...

Stack cars (all single stack, of course)
-Thrall 48' well cars (stand alone and 5-unit)
-Interail or Deluxe Lopac
-Maxi-III
-Maxi-I (e.g. Maersk)

Spine cars:
48' TTAX or NTTX from N scale kits. 
The BLMA 5-unit spines would barely be 'mid 1990s' (built 1995).

Still even some old 60' converted flats, like the MT model or similar.
-NS had some that were fairly common
-I also have photos of GTW, CP, and WC (in 2005!)

Roadnames for non TTX 89' footers could be the occasional FEC, DTI

I realize I'm not clear if you're considering only COFC or also mixed with TOFC.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2014, 12:14:35 AM by jagged ben »

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Re: Early/mid 1990's Intermodal
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2014, 11:37:24 AM »
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Thanks for jogging my memory on some things!

I'm focused on TOFC with a couple of containers riding on chassis first....

After that I want to re-visit the trash/sludge business, which usually moved in regular freights as COFC (second hand containers or earlier purpose build containers) 

jmlaboda

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Re: Early/mid 1990's Intermodal
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2014, 12:30:27 PM »
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Don't forget the prototype kitbashings done by the Chicago & Northwestern, Southern Railway/Norfolk Southern and XTRA Inc., cars built into intermodal flats from boxcars... these cars operated all over the country with the cars still very active in the 90s...

CNW (rblt. by XTRA, Inc.)
http://rr-fallenflags.org/cnw/cnw780537b.jpg
http://rr-fallenflags.org/cnw/cnw780627spa.jpg

SOU
http://rr-fallenflags.org/sout/sou151415spa.jpg
http://rr-fallenflags.org/sout/sou155442agd.jpg
http://rr-fallenflags.org/sout/sou155833dsa.jpg

NS
http://rr-fallenflags.org/ns/ns157002amg.jpg
http://rr-fallenflags.org/ns/ns157004abn.jpg
http://rr-fallenflags.org/ns/ns157018amm.jpg

ljudice

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Re: Early/mid 1990's Intermodal
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2014, 12:35:41 PM »
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Good point!  I actually think NScaleKits has the SOU/NS car on it's list of projects....

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Re: Early/mid 1990's Intermodal
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2014, 12:49:53 PM »
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I always wanted an excuse to do one of those ATSF single-unit spine cars that I believe were built from old box cars, but those may even pre-date the 90's.

At any rate, that's a pretty good list of equipment but I would add trailer-only spines to the list. I believe the ones that Alan Curtis made at one point were still around in the 90's....at least in Trailer Train livery (not sure if the ATSF 10 Packs, for example, made it into the 90's).
« Last Edit: June 17, 2014, 12:57:28 PM by tehachapifan »
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Re: Early/mid 1990's Intermodal
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2014, 07:58:11 AM »
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- BLMA TT  TTX flats - some would still be floating around

Yes, and there are a couple of KTTX flats in the TT logo floating around in the mid-90s.

The F89-J wasn't as common as the flush deck or channel sided ACF/PS/BS flats, so you'd be more likely to see an unmodified TTX marked flat (TT logo) than the BLMA car.

To put it in perspective, my April 96 ORER has about 250 flats with TTX marks (including 2x 85' cars), versus the thousands of RTTX (Triple 28) and TTWX (Twin 45) flats and many-hundreds of the KTTX / WTTX Twin 45 Flats.

Keep it in mind though that during the early double-stack age, many terminals were still loading flats circus style (such as the FEC) and the appropriate flats (such as the TTX 89' and 85' flats) would have been allocated to those corridors.   

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Unlikely to see PS 85' cars in intermodal service.  No TTAX's left by this time...

See above - maybe you got lucky on the day?

Like Ben said, TTAXs in 48' spine service.

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I believe in searching through my photos that PS 85' cars formed the ITIX fleet of cars that carried sludge from NJ to Texas in this era.

ITIX weren't "registered" in my 96 ORER, but they were shown in the index.

Just to echo what Ben said, TT and TTX flats, Maxi-Is, Maxi-IIIs, Lo-Pacs, Husky Stacks are all fair game - all those dirty TT flats patched for TTX should be great weathering projects. The odd TT/Railroad patched double stack would be nice variety in the early part of the 90s. Still plenty of TT double stacks 93-96 on my Espee videos too.

For the hotshot Z trains, lots of TTAX 48' spines and like Russ mentioned, the trailer only UTTX spines too.

And cause you asked, only four 75' ATTX cars by 4/96.
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Re: Early/mid 1990's Intermodal
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2014, 08:39:48 AM »
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I think by 1996 the ITIX's were restenciled ECOX or some other initial...   I think the movement, which used custom built 20' boxes labeled "BulkBox" was gone by the 2000's.  Pretty sure it was sludge from a loading facility near the old Naparano scrapyard in Newark, NJ.

Now the 75' ATTX's were the ex-PRR F39's??

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Re: Early/mid 1990's Intermodal
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2014, 04:15:46 PM »
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   The Santa Fe 10 packers were still around when I hired out in 1993.




  dave t