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REA baggage carts
« on: May 29, 2014, 10:40:49 AM »
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Hi all, just completed my REA baggage carts and are available for anybody who wishes them, http://shpws.me/skO9 thanks for looking.

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Re: REA baggage carts
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2014, 01:20:22 PM »
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Nice product  :D
Too expensive for me  :(

I wish you luck and hope you sell a million of em' !!!
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Re: REA baggage carts
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2014, 07:02:42 PM »
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It would be nice to see a bulk pack at a discount.  Many station had these carts by the dozen.
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Re: REA baggage carts
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2014, 03:32:44 AM »
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Nice product  :D
Too expensive for me  :(
I wish you luck and hope you sell a million of em' !!!

A million would be nice but I need to sell at least 25 to break even.


It would be nice to see a bulk pack at a discount.  Many station had these carts by the dozen.

Does a pack of 10 carts sound ok.

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Re: REA baggage carts
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2014, 10:38:04 AM »
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Alexander, first, I think this could be a great product. Maybe a six pack, and if you could design it such that the the amount of protective waste material could be minimized, the per unit price would be more palatable? It certainly seems like a much needed item, if well done and reasonably priced. At six bucks a pop, it would need to be very well done. May I make a suggestion?

It's hard to judge this tiny model from pictures, but my reaction is that it feels a little clunky. I can live with the wheels as these came with diffent types of wheels, from very thin profile iron strap to wood to steel and rubber and I understand the limitations of 3D printing. But the deck looks wrong to me: it looks like a layer of four by fours or some such butted side by side, with no structural support. Realworld carts typically had much thinner planking over a frame, with maybe a fascia board along the sides. There are lots of pics on the web. One simple fix would be to have the side slots only about an inch and a half deep, with a horizontal line representing the depth of the planking and the side below either receeding or protruding slightly. I would also attempt to lighten up the pull hardware a little.

Well, my two cents worth...
(or quite a few dollars worth as I need a bunch of them for my San Bernardino depot area...:)
Regards, Otto K.



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Re: REA baggage carts
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2014, 10:56:35 AM »
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Bulk Pack is the way to go IMO

6 pack, 12 pack, 24 pack... all would allow for a lower price point....

you could use em' all over... in many different era's...

good luck....

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Re: REA baggage carts
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2014, 03:58:56 PM »
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Hi Otto

Thanks for your input, I will try and not to miss any of your points

The bulk pack will reduce the per unit cost considerably since there is a $5 handling charge per model in FUD so I will follow seusscaboose and multi pack them.

One question - one has straight wheels, the other turned would this be the preferred way or to have all with straight wheels?

I think I have the protective material about right as it is quite strong and the carts are best described as fragile, I have to think of operators having to hold the model for cleaning. Had I thought about it first I would have left some of it on for holding whilst painting before chopping it off.

Mmmmmm the deck - I pondered long and hard and that is really the trade off to make everything else as small as I could, I am sure that if I made it any thinner then it would not print, it is the deck that gives the model a enough strength to hold together. I will have another look at it and see if I can reduce it a bit.

The wheels were about version 8 of what I tried, I thought it more important to have see through spokes.

The pull hardware is on the minimums for FUD and I agree it does look oversize but that is what we have got.

The model is very close to a plan that was in model railroader Sept 87, there is also a more modern cart in Aug 55

Thanks for the input.

Alexander

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Re: REA baggage carts
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2014, 04:34:31 PM »
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Alexander, thanks for listening, I understand. Ultimately you're the guy making the effort and taking the risk.

Just to clarify, I didn't suggest you thin the deck, just that the vertical lines creating the four by four look along the edge not extend the full depth but just a small portion, with a horizontal line visually separating what should look like the decking from a beam or board supporting it... Structurally, it would still be the same.
Oh, and I like the spoked wheel version too.
Thanks again, Otto K.

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Re: REA baggage carts
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2014, 04:59:30 PM »
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Ahhh, I see what you mean, I will make that alteration it makes sense. Some times I cannot see the wood for the trees.  :facepalm:

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Re: REA baggage carts
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2014, 07:47:43 PM »
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What would the bulk price be at different amounts?
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Re: REA baggage carts
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2014, 01:24:07 AM »
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What would the bulk price be at different amounts?

Hi Brian

Until I upload the model to shapeways I cannot really say for sure but the price does not just double for every extra 2 carts.

I will try and get it done tomorrow.
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Re: REA baggage carts
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2014, 05:31:43 AM »
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I agree that you leave the deck thickness what it is but thin the board separations (not so deep and wide) and remove the board separations along the edges so they look like separate sideframe boards. This means stop the board separations just before they get to the edge of the decking. Painting the wood brown and the "sideframes" REA green would heighten the difference.
Also second the bulkpack idea. As for the wagon tongue, any perfectionist who thinks it too thick could cut it off and substitute a thin brass or styrene version.

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Re: REA baggage carts
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2014, 11:19:30 AM »
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Hi Guys

Altered the sides of the deck as suggested and made up bulk packs.

Original - http://shpws.me/skO9
6 carts all in parked position http://shpws.me/tGKJ
6 carts assorted http://shpws.me/tGKK
12 carts all in parked position http://shpws.me/tGL2
12 carts assorted http://shpws.me/tGL5

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Re: REA baggage carts
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2014, 11:57:14 AM »
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Alexander, thanks for making the decking change I suggested. I just ordered an assorted 12 pack for thirty bucks including shipping; that's $2.50 apiece, a much better deal!
I looked at the rest of your shop and like some of your traction models as well... too bad you don't have any Pacific Electric juice jacks 8)
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Re: REA baggage carts
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2014, 07:41:39 PM »
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I like the multi pack.  I will be placing an order in the middle of the month when my budget resets!
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