FUD-safe paint stripper?

[peteski]

Here, I'll even upload a picture so you don't think I'm full of it.



It doesn't say scalecoat wash away, it says Scalecoat II wash away  And the gray lettering says PLASTIC. Why, because Scalecoat 1 paint is for brass, metal or wood.

The Scalecoat website lists 10599 - S59 Metal stripper (under Scalecoat colors), and 10568 Wash Away paint remover (under Scalecoat II colors).  I wouldn't expect anybody to use a metal stripper on any plastic items. 

OK, now you're going to make me dig up my old bottle!    I still don't think there was ever a Scalecoat I Wash away paint remover.  But I think my old bottle doesn't indicate Scalecoat II. But until I find it, I am proven wrong. 

[Rich_S]

OK, now you're going to make me dig up my old bottle!    I still don't think there was ever a Scalecoat I Wash away paint remover.  But I think my old bottle doesn't indicate Scalecoat II.

My memory is not as good as it use to be. They use to sell a Scalecoat barrier so you could spray Scalecoat 1 on plastic, but I don't see that product listed either? Unfortunately we are starting to get off topic   

I was reading that the war gaming folks use Simply Green as a paint stripper. I do not know if this process would work?

[thomasjmdavis]

I've used Simple Green to strip paint from styrene and even metal, and it has worked well for me (IIRC, it does tarnish brass).  However, I have also used alcohol to strip paint from styrene, without the side effects it has on FUD.  So while Simple Green does strip paint, whether it would do so without damage to FUD is an open question.  Whatever FUD is chemically, it appears to NOT be polystyrene.
Tom D

[spookshow]

Too bad I chucked my "disaster" into the trash. I suppose I could've used it as a guinea pig...

Then again, as mangled as it was it would've been pretty difficult to gauge any further damage (vis'a'vis experimentation) 

Cheers,
-Mark

[peteski]

Sorry Peteski but my bottle clearly reads "Scalecoat II Wash away" They also sell a paint remover for metal, not sure what they call that product.  Just because I'm new here, does not mean I'm new to this hobby. 

Rich, you might not be new to the hobby, but it looks like you missed one.  Here is a photo of both, the old and the current bottle of the product we are talking about.


As you can see, the older bottle (with yellowed label  ) has no mention of Scalecoat II. It uses the original Scalecoat logo (probably from when there was only one Scalecoat paint available).  The name is not identical and the part number is "56" instead of the "S56" but to the "Peteski's sniff-test" both appear to be the same stuff.  The instructions on both labels are also pretty much identical. So I would venture a statement that the only difference between the Scalecoat and the II version is the label.

I guess that we are sort of in an agreement: there were 2 flavors of the paint stripper but the contents is identical - only the labels have been changed to protect the innocent. 

There is also an amusing statement on  the old label.


Someone else mentioned a barrier coating to make the paint safe for plastic. Barrier was sold by Floquil (for their original "hot" model RR paints). It was discontinued when the new plastic-safe formula was introduced.  I don't remember Scalecoat having a barrier, but the label on the paint remover mentions Shieldcoat. So something similar to Floquil Barrier was most available in the Scalecoat line. Probably beck before Scalecoat II.

EDIT:  Neither of these paint strippers should be confused with the Scalecoat 10599 - S59 Metal stripper.  I wouldn't expect anybody to use a metal stripper on any plastic items.

[JanesCustomTrain]

But even your picture shows clearly there is a SCALECOAT II paint stripper, not sure, who was it who denied it ?   

Jane

[Chris333]

The Scalecoat S5 is waterproof. 

[3rdboxcar]

Not that it is much help to you guys on the other side of the water but I have successfully used Superstrip by Pheonix paints here in the UK, it is also good for the initial soak to clean away the residue only, problem there it is 7 times more expensive than the non acetone nail varnish remover, got my usual strange look when I bought 2 bottles of it today.

Alexander

[Rich_S]

but to the "Peteski's sniff-test" both appear to be the same stuff. 

I guess that we are sort of in an agreement: there were 2 flavors of the paint stripper but the contents is identical - only the labels have been changed to protect the innocent. 

Well if the two bottles pass the Peteski sniff test, then I retract my earlier statement     

I knew I remembered seeing a different style bottle. I agree, the earlier bottle was before the release of Scalecoat II, that is why I assumed the Scalecoat II paint remover was formulated for plastic.
Back before Scalecoat II, it was always recommended to spray a barrier onto your plastic models before using the original Scalecoat paint. So in my mind anything with the Scalecoat II label is for plastic.

Neither of these paint strippers should be confused with the Scalecoat 10599 - S59 Metal stripper.  I wouldn't expect anybody to use a metal stripper on any plastic items. 

Agreed 100%. 

[peteski]

Well if the two bottles pass the Peteski sniff test, then I retract my earlier statement     

I knew I remembered seeing a different style bottle. I agree, the earlier bottle was before the release of Scalecoat II, that is why I assumed the Scalecoat II paint remover was formulated for plastic.
Back before Scalecoat II, it was always recommended to spray a barrier onto your plastic models before using the original Scalecoat paint. So in my mind anything with the Scalecoat II label is for plastic.

Yes, my nose is a finely tuned scientific tool!   

Just for the sake of clarity, was the Scalecoat barrier coating called "Shieldcoat" (not to be confused with Floquil barrier coating called "Barrier")?

[DKS]

Actually ... the last time I made a boo boo on a model , I stuck it back in the Bestine and it stripped the paint. I didn't let the paint dry. I used Scalecoat paint to begin with.

Bestine will strip paint that has not been allowed to fully cure. Once the paint is cured, however, Bestine does not have much effect.

[Rich_S]

Just for the sake of clarity, was the Scalecoat barrier coating called "Shieldcoat" (not to be confused with Floquil barrier coating called "Barrier")?

To be honest, I don't remember. A friend of mine was a die hard Scalecoat user, I'll have to see if he remembers the name of the product. I've been using Polly S and Polly Scale since Floquil first released the products. I know I had tried Scalecoat paint because at the time Floquil did not offer the color I needed, but I don't remember the name of the barrier product. It was around that same time period Accu-Paint and Badger ModelFlex hit the markets. But you know what they say, the mind is the second thing to go. What's the first, I can't remember. 

 

[Rich_S]

Just for the sake of clarity, was the Scalecoat barrier coating called "Shieldcoat"

Peteski, You are correct, Scalecoat barrier was called Shieldcoat.

[sd45elect2000]

Bestine will strip paint that has not been allowed to fully cure. Once the paint is cured, however, Bestine does not have much effect.

Sounds right. What happened is while painting the model I turned suddenly and the model ended up on the carpet. The paint was spoiled. I quickly put it into the jar of Bestine and a week later the paint was off.

Randy

[thomasjmdavis]

Randy,

Anyone who drops a freshly painted model on the carpet and his first concern is that the paint job on the model, is a true modeler.

But out of curiosity, how did you get the Scalecoat off the carpet?