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Ugh, senior moment - what d'ya call...
« on: May 19, 2014, 07:39:52 PM »
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...the bar that runs across the lower / backside of a tender (I'm assuming it operates the coupler?)

 

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Re: Ugh, senior moment - what d'ya call...
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2014, 07:42:54 PM »
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Cut lever?

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Re: Ugh, senior moment - what d'ya call...
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2014, 07:44:04 PM »
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...the bar that runs across the lower / backside of a tender (I'm assuming it operates the coupler?)

 

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-Mark

The cut lever or more commonly referred to as the Coupler Cut Lever, operates the the cut pin on the coupler.  On most locomotives the cut lever is mounted above the coupler and pulls up on the pin.

 

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Re: Ugh, senior moment - what d'ya call...
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2014, 07:48:27 PM »
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Thanks, Rich. Re this particular model (Oriental Ltd Challenger), it's pretty much impossible to install any sort of coupler without bending that cut lever downwards. Is that prototypical? Looking at my Athearn 4-6-6-4, said bar is definitely bent underneath the coupler, so maybe that's ok?



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Re: Ugh, senior moment - what d'ya call...
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2014, 08:11:02 PM »
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Re: Ugh, senior moment - what d'ya call...
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2014, 08:12:31 PM »
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Thanks, Rich. Re this particular model (Oriental Ltd Challenger), it's pretty much impossible to install any sort of coupler without bending that cut lever downwards. Is that prototypical? Looking at my Athearn 4-6-6-4, said bar is definitely bent underneath the coupler, so maybe that's ok?



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Mark, You are correct, the cut lever on the challenger does run below the coupler.


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Re: Ugh, senior moment - what d'ya call...
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2014, 09:04:41 PM »
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Very simple water gauge on the rear of tender for 844. Is that an add on for the current operations or did they have that originally?

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Re: Ugh, senior moment - what d'ya call...
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2014, 03:23:31 AM »
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Most/many brass models are made for a 1025,  which is pretty thin.

Have you tried that?


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Re: Ugh, senior moment - what d'ya call...
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2014, 06:40:53 AM »
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Most/many brass models are made for a 1025,  which is pretty thin.

Have you tried that?

Yes, you can get one in there... sort of. Unfortunately, the cut lever rides right on the shank so the whole thing becomes a bit static.

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Re: Ugh, senior moment - what d'ya call...
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2014, 01:25:41 PM »
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 :|      That current view of the rear of 844's tender is how it currently looks. Over the years there have been many modern add ons from how it looked when built or in daily service. The modern Oil Bunkers in use on both this locomotive and 3985 look nothing like the oringinal bunkers ,baislically a tank with a fill hatch,or sometimes 2. Athearn persists in usuing the modern bunker on their non modern Challengers. The bunker and coal load (with the divot in the pile) are removeable. There use to be several resin castings for the old oil bunkers I installed one in the late 1980's to convert a Nakajima 3985 from coal to oil, the real locomotive had just been reciently converted from coal.                                                Spookshow I hope your Oriental Challenger runs ok, they are highly detailed, but it took several modelers to track down numerious shorts and fix them to get my two to run.                                        Nate Goodman (Nato).

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Re: Ugh, senior moment - what d'ya call...
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2014, 02:41:19 PM »
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Spookshow I hope your Oriental Challenger runs ok, they are highly detailed, but it took several modelers to track down numerious shorts and fix them to get my two to run.                                        Nate Goodman (Nato).

Mine runs really well - kind of surprising, given all the horror stories I've read about them.

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Re: Ugh, senior moment - what d'ya call...
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2014, 03:59:33 PM »
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I know we call it a "cut lever", but isn't the actual name a "coupler lift lever" ?
(I know, it's like getting people to call a Xerox machine a "photocopier").

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Re: Ugh, senior moment - what d'ya call...
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2014, 05:18:29 PM »
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If I may add:

We in the operating department, call it a pin lifter lever since it lifts the lock block in the knuckle to open it.

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Re: Ugh, senior moment - what d'ya call...
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2014, 05:52:44 PM »
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If I may add:

We in the operating department, call it a pin lifter lever since it lifts the lock block in the knuckle to open it.

Barry

Barry,
    It sometimes depends on what railroad you work for and what department. The railroad I work for we call it a cut lever. Another example of different terminology, the engine we use to move dead locomotives in and out of the house we call a shifter, I've heard other railroads call them goats, technically it's a SW1500. I think we are one of the last locations to have flop switches, which I've heard others call them run through switches or variable switches. As the name implies, you can run through the switch without breaking it, it will flop to the new route.  It's not a spring switch, which some people call a rubber switch, it's a flop switch.  Railroad lingo is another facet of the hobby I've enjoyed and seems to be slowly disappearing. At one time it was common to hear phrases like, "Give me some slack so I can pull the pin and break the joint"  :D