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Stuff "ya just gotta model"....
« on: October 14, 2013, 03:50:33 PM »
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I was organizing some pictures I'd gathered over the last year and found three projects that are in the "stuff I just gotta model" category......



A NP Lowey scheme 10-1-2 heavyweight.... I mean, come on; isn't this just dying to be done to a MT HW car ?



A BN HW baggage express.... almost seem oximoronic.... the "new" BN and an "old" HW baggage car.... A WOT unit will be a great starting place for this>>>>>>>>>>



Who hasn't got a bunch of spare 40's boxcars laying around....? Looks like a great project to "re-use" them as "new" stock cars.....

I bet everyone has a little list like this eh ?  :D
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Re: Stuff "ya just gotta model"....
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2013, 04:02:24 PM »
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....ironicaly I did a Great Northern version of a similar car year ago without knowing that it "made it" to BN hockey stick................



Oh well; two couldn't hurt, right ? :D
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Re: Stuff "ya just gotta model"....
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2013, 04:09:59 PM »
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A NP Lowey scheme 10-1-2 heavyweight.... I mean, come on; isn't this just dying to be done to a MT HW car ?

Thanks Pud...  I now have a reason to run NP HW's on my layout... 

for me... it is this car
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rspicture.aspx?id=254930

I have heard a lot about it (since it is still around) and actually got to ride in it a few weeks back on original NKP right of way while a retired NKP steam engineer told us stories.  Pretty much rail nerd eutopia for me.

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Re: Stuff "ya just gotta model"....
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2013, 08:08:09 PM »
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If memory serves me, Model Railroader ran a construction article - way back when - on modeling those CP converted stock cars including drawings.

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Re: Stuff "ya just gotta model"....
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2013, 11:11:20 AM »
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Love the NP HW, gotta talk Jason into a full blown NCL or EB after everything else he is doing!! Right Puddy!!

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Re: Stuff "ya just gotta model"....
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2013, 11:44:05 AM »
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Email the 10-1-2 photo to Joe so it can get on their production schedule.
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Re: Stuff "ya just gotta model"....
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2013, 11:50:11 AM »
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Interesting.  A NP car running under the wire on a PRR train.  Got me wondering what train this could be and if it happened often.  Good enough exuse to have one.

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Re: Stuff "ya just gotta model"....
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2013, 11:55:05 AM »
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My guess would be a through-sleeper from one of the major NP-served cities to New York.
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Re: Stuff "ya just gotta model"....
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2013, 12:00:16 PM »
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whatever it is... it is HOT!


Calling Joe. Calling Joe...   Come in Joe.  :P

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Re: Stuff "ya just gotta model"....
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2013, 01:08:30 PM »
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Ah hell; I don't need to call Joe, all I have to do is spend 20 hours creating one and it will magically appear on the next MT monthly announcement............... :facepalm:
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Re: Stuff "ya just gotta model"....
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2013, 02:22:58 PM »
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Touche'
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Re: Stuff "ya just gotta model"....
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2013, 04:12:20 PM »
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I sent it to Joe just for giggles................... :D
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Re: Stuff "ya just gotta model"....
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2013, 04:15:24 PM »
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My guess would be a through-sleeper from one of the major NP-served cities to New York.

It's part of a 1964 Army-Navy game special brought into Philly, apparently: http://www.bcoolidge.com/Trains%20PRR%20A-N%20Game%20Page.htm Go down a little over 1/2 way and there it is.
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Re: Stuff "ya just gotta model"....
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2013, 04:34:23 PM »
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"My guess would be a through-sleeper from one of the major NP-served cities to New York."

Maybe... maybe not.

Under Pullman lease the cars, as long as they were road worthy and the interiors maintained, could go anywhere that Pullman operated... like having a New Haven 6-4-6 sleeper showing up on the Georgia RR night train between Augusta and Atlanta.  In the case of NP 716, the car Puddy posted a shot of, it was on an "1964 Pennsylvania Railroad Army-Navy Game" Special and likely was brought in to handle the additional traffic from Chicago.  Another odd example is would be this one...

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/cccstl_ridgewood_country_club0.jpg

This car, Ridgewood Country Club, painted for the NP was actually owned by NYC's "Big Four" subsidiary (CCC&StL) when the shot was taken, having been painted in NP colors in 1954, which it retained until it was taken out of Pullman lease three years later.

"I now have a reason to run NP HW's on my layout... "

All of the Big railroads still have some example of heavyweight business cars in use, even though they may not look the part.  Canadian Pacific has the best "collection" of nearly original cars while the Canadian National has some of the most modified, hiding their origins in a streamlined carbody.  Union Pacific has the distinction of having nearly a complete roster of lightweight business cars, save for UPP 104 North Platte and former Espee car UPP 140 Stanford[/i]  Here are some good examples of the "hidden" cars...

One of my favorites... CSX Greenbrier, rebuild from an IC Burnside Shops heavyweight rebuild...
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=556689
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3168970

CN Gatineau... (sold, just recently, to... gasp... Canadian Pacific)...
http://cnrphotos.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=22088
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1163465
http://www.canadianrailwayobservations.com/croarchives/2013/aprcro/aprcn.38.jpg

BNSF Stevens Pass
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=336452
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2219657

PRR 120...
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=813062

There are still a large number of heavyweights that are owned by corporations and individuals as well that could show up on even the most modern lines, far too many to mention here.  While often they are hauled on passenger trains there are occasions where they could show up on freights as well, especially if they are bound for a city that does not have passenger service, or at least a more direct route.  Museum movements are another option, even if the museum isn't close to where you model.  And there is always "another new addition" for Ed Ellis'
Pullman Rail Journeys or one of his many tourist lines, heading to or from rebuilding (especially so if you are partial to IC chocolate and orange).  Puddy's modeling era is even better since there were far more heavyweights in private ownership than these days and the variety is quite wide.

Hey, Puddy... one bummer... CP was not a major user of Pullman cars, preferring to own and staff their own sleepers and parlor cars save for just a hand full of routes.  Maybe CN might be more preferable in this regard...  8)

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Re: Stuff "ya just gotta model"....
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2013, 05:09:16 PM »
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Serious bummer Jerry - short of the five SOO Dominion 8-1-2 Pullmans that CPR "inherited" after the break up there isn't much to model... I've done "Mountaineer"....



But I guess I will have to take a stab at the NP unit, just to assure everyone that MT does one !  :D
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