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Question About Hydra-Cushion Logo on Freight Cars?
« on: October 03, 2013, 11:39:53 AM »
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Did any other railroads besides Southern Pacific/Cotton Belt have Hydra-Cushion logos on the sides of their box cars? Like this set:

http://www.microscale.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=87-3&Category_Code=SP&Product_Count=86

I don't recall seeing any other railroad use them.


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if Kiz thought it up...

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Re: Question About Hydra-Cushion Logo on Freight Cars?
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2013, 11:45:56 AM »
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I want to say yes...I seem to recall seeing some Katy boxcars with it.   But it might have been a similar slogan for their version of it.  The guy that invented it went to Evans and I believe SP licensed it to them...but not sure about the history after that or use of the logo.

EDIT: OK, for once my fading memory didn't fail me....sort of.   The Katy boxcars had the *slogan*/wording "Hydra-Cushion" but not necessarily that exact logo.   For example:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2740276 (has pretty staight up vertical block lettering)
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2740275 (more like the SP version, italicized)
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Re: Question About Hydra-Cushion Logo on Freight Cars?
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2013, 12:26:38 PM »
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Thanks for the info and photo links.

Silly me, I keep forgetting to do a google search before I ask questions here. Everything I found through Google shows the logo on SP/SSW cars only.


Hmm... I have a Gorre
& Daphetid 40' box car
with the Hydra-Cushion
logo...

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Re: Question About Hydra-Cushion Logo on Freight Cars?
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2013, 12:50:04 PM »
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Nah, keep the questions coming...there's always some tidbit of info that comes out of these discussions that doesn't rear its head in Google.  For example, if you Google "Hydra-Cushion" you don't get a single MKT photo in the results, even though the car obviously has those markings...if not that specific SP logo.

Besides, your questions benefit my research too.  If a car is too new (from a build-date perspective) for 1971, there's a very good chance it is still running in 2000 when I need it to be.   8)
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Re: Question About Hydra-Cushion Logo on Freight Cars?
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2013, 01:52:36 PM »
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See the Wikipedia article on William K. MacCurdy, especially the line:

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MacCurdy left SRI to be the chief research engineer in the Transportation Equipment Division of Evans Products Company, which was licensed some of the proprietary information about the Hydra-Cushion from Southern Pacific in 1957.[1][7]

There were some cars with the Evans logo that also had the H-C logo, as I recall....

Quote from: Denver Road Doug on October 03, 2013, 12:50:04 PM
Nah, keep the questions coming...

The questions are fine, but we do have a Prototype Research forum... 

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Re: Question About Hydra-Cushion Logo on Freight Cars?
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2013, 02:39:57 PM »
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Quote from: GaryHinshaw on October 03, 2013, 01:52:36 PM
The questions are fine, but we do have a Prototype Research forum... 

You know what happened? I posted the Microscale link to show which logo I was talking about, so I was thinking "N scale models".


Hmm... Kiz was thinking...?

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Re: Question About Hydra-Cushion Logo on Freight Cars?
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Re: Question About Hydra-Cushion Logo on Freight Cars?
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Re: Question About Hydra-Cushion Logo on Freight Cars?
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2013, 10:18:42 PM »
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I think the EELX reporting mark is an Evans Leasing Co. symbol, and they used the same Hydra-Cushion logo that SP used after they received a license for the technology from SP.

FWIW, I don't see many cars with that logo, but there are quite a few Evans lease cars under USLX that carry the small Hydra-Cushion logo, similar to what DRD showed.  A few more examples of the small logo on the 53' double plug door (the proto for the Atlas model):

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=73969
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2694507

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Re: Question About Hydra-Cushion Logo on Freight Cars?
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2013, 02:02:11 AM »
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And I learned something new.  I always assumed Hydra-Cushion was invented by one of the car builders and SP used the big slogans for advertising.  SP actually invented it?
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