Bachmann S4's are hitting the shelves....

[Chris333]

I would be interested in how well the chassis fit inside a Kato NW2.

[6axlepwr]

The S.

Can you tell me if those handrails and stanchions are a seperate part?

If so, it woul dbe real easy to cut the handrails out and put brass wire in there. That would dress these models up really well.

I knew the HO ones ran very well and it is nice to know the N ones do too. Now it is time to compare teh model to the prototype and see how well Bachmann did with that.

[wcfn100]

Now it is time to compare teh model to the prototype and see how well Bachmann did with that.

It won't (doesn't) compare well to the prototype.  But there's no reason it should.

Find an old HO Atlas S2 or even the Arnold N scale one.  It will compare closer to those.

Jason

[Leggy]

It won't (doesn't) compare well to the prototype.  But there's no reason it should.

Find an old HO Atlas S2 or even the Arnold N scale one.  It will compare closer to those.

Jason

Is that hateful bias or reality?

[sizemore]

The S.

Can you tell me if those handrails and stanchions are a seperate part?

They are separate. That stated the sides would be easy to make. But comparing the pilot handrails you'd be hard pressed to make 100% fidelity to prototype in terms of strength. Not saying it can't be done, its more about the function over form in terms of resiliency.

The S.

[Puddington]

It won't (doesn't) compare well to the prototype.  But there's no reason it should.

Find an old HO Atlas S2 or even the Arnold N scale one.  It will compare closer to those.

Jason

Jason: Please stop.

[wcfn100]

Jason: Please stop.

Stop what?  Answering questions?

You got it, right after this.

Is that hateful bias or reality?

First of all I've never had a bias against any company.  Only inferior products which this is.

I can point to a dozen things just in the photos alone much less having a drawing in hand.  When the Atlas model comes out, you'll see the differences - or not, who cares.

Jason - out.

[draskouasshat]

Stop what?  Answering questions?

You got it, right after this.

First of all I've never had a bias against any company.  Only inferior products which this is.

I can point to a dozen things just in the photos alone much less having a drawing in hand.  When the Atlas model comes out, you'll see the differences - or not, who cares.

Jason - out.

I guess we should just tell bmann to stop making things......... The worst part is, theyre actually bringing more models to market than any other mfg at this point. Yes, i like completely accurate models also but then again, i model ATSF in 1947 on cajon with UP mixed in there so i have to make what i want. Honestly, im glad theyre making something i can start with in the first place. Lets think about this, without the 2-8-0, 2-6-6-2, 4-8-2, j class, 4-6-0, and now a 2-8-8-4, where would n-scale steam be? Hell, we cant depend on the other mfgs to produce the ***** we want or even something new besides the Atlas S2. How many repaints and redos do we need from the other guys before they take the money WE have spent to produce something new? I can at least respect a company thats trying to do something for us over "most" of the other yahoos.

On a side note, i really get tired of the sour assed people that do nothing but knock every single new product that comes out as soon as its out. Do us all a favor, just move to HO and join the other whiny bitches.

[Catt]

Jason, have you actually seen the model up close and personal? I have ,it was at NTS last August in Grand Rapids and it looks pretty damn good.

[Sokramiketes]

Jason, have you actually seen the model up close and personal? I have ,it was at NTS last August in Grand Rapids and it looks pretty damn good.

I saw it in person.  The hood is wide and it is not an accurate model of an Alco switcher.   

If proportion and detail don't bother you, fine.  But that doesn't somehow make the model correct.  This is Railwire and a lot of us are picky. 

[Sokramiketes]

I would be interested in how well the chassis fit inside a Kato NW2.

Say what?   

The EMD switchers are much lower, and with the Bachmann S4 being a widebody, I'm not sure there's any chance of doing that...

[Cajonpassfan]

I guess I'll do something radical and decide whether it is an inferior model afterI actually see it and run it....figured it's worth $70 bucks with DCC; ordered one tonight, need a workhorse switcher for one of my staging yards and the ATSF zebra looks GOOD.... It it doesn't I'll turn the lights way down...
Still, thankful to Bachmann for bringing out product....more than can be said of a number of other manufacturers.
Otto K.,

[Sokramiketes]

I guess I'll do something radical and decide whether it is an inferior model afterI actually see it and run it....figured it's worth $70 bucks with DCC; ordered one tonight, need a workhorse switcher for one of my staging yards and the ATSF zebra looks GOOD.... It it doesn't I'll turn the lights way down...
Still, thankful to Bachmann for bringing out product....more than can be said of a number of other manufacturers.
Otto K.,

In case you missed it up-thread, the photo of the ATSF unit is of the HO model.  So it looks better than the actual N scale model...

[packers#1]

I went and picked it up. It runs really really well OOB. I'd consider this a HUGE  hit over the GE44T. Operationally it runs better than the 44T. The hood and cab lights are both on in either direction but they dim in the direction opposite of travel on DCC. It appears this has flywheels that operate surprisingly well. The detail and painting is amazing. The only flaw that I can find is the window fitment on the cab sides, its not as clean as Kato.

The S.

Glad to hear; depending on what ends up happening, I may end up springing for one, unless the Atlas is out by the time it comes around to get a small switcher and the price difference isn't too wide

As to the venom in this thread; it seems as if we don't have a problem with people having a problem with a model. We have a problem with the persistent nagging and belaboring of points, with the same people pointing out the flaws...I'm not looking for rainbows and sunshine, but still, I'm worried the acid dripping in these threads is gonna melt the servers, and then we all loose TRW 

[OldEastRR]

Humph ... true-blue accurate N scalers who want REAL looking models know better than to buy ANY of the N scale stuff ever made, because all those models are well, WRONG!
These true-blue accurate N scalers are only trying to open the eyes of us dumb easily-duped clowns who actually BUY those inaccurate, impure models, bless their hearts. And it seems none of us appreciate their efforts. Sigh.