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Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« on: July 25, 2013, 11:28:13 AM »
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In the USRA 55-ton Hopper thread, a link was posted to a Shapeways manufacturer who has a N scale shell for a Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16 - http://www.shapeways.com/model/1096910/n-scale-baldwin-drs-4-4-1500-as16.html?li=productBox-search.  Since the NP had these, I'm interested.  Maybe a Soo unit too.  But how to turn this shell into a working model?  These units had a 32' 3" bolster-to-bolster length.  Are there any reliable and available N scale drive trains with the same, or really, really close dims?

I'd like A couple AS616s too, in Milwaukee paint.  That model has the same drive train dims and seems to be the exact same body panel/door layout.  Anyone know specifically what features were different between the 4-axle and 6-axle prototypes?
Now seeking Pacific NW N scalers to create a Modutrak-style modular club featuring NP's shared mainline between Seattle and Portland. PM me if interested.

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2013, 11:49:46 AM »
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I'd like A couple AS616s too, in Milwaukee paint.  That model has the same drive train dims and seems to be the exact same body panel/door layout.  Anyone know specifically what features were different between the 4-axle and 6-axle prototypes?

First GN X178, and now MILW AS-616's.  You are modelng Minneapolis, you just don't know it.  :)


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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2013, 02:01:58 PM »
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I just placed an order for one. I know it will require quite a bit of work, but it will fill a gap in my NP roster. Thanks for the post, I didn't realize these were now being offered.

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2013, 02:11:48 PM »
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I inquired about what chassis this was designed to fit on but I haven't received a response yet. It's only been a couple of weeks...
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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2013, 02:17:10 PM »
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I inquired about what chassis this was designed to fit on but I haven't received a response yet. It's only been a couple of weeks...

From the bolster span listed in sirenwerks post, it would most closely match a GP30/35.

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2013, 02:40:37 PM »
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From the bolster span listed in sirenwerks post, it would most closely match a GP30/35.

Thanks!
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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2013, 04:56:11 PM »
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First GN X178, and now MILW AS-616's.  You are modelng Minneapolis, you just don't know it.  :)

My big dream is a Mod-U-Track redux featuring the NP shared mainline and the scenery between Portland and Seattle.  But the Twin Cities, with so many more great railroads and a menagerie of paint schemes in the 60s, not to mention so many idealistic name passenger trains, is very intoxicating.  I just don't know that much about the actual place, having never visited - we just rarely left Packers territory when visiting the grandparents.
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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2013, 06:28:57 PM »
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On the Shapeways site there is a shot of it that kinda resembles USN dazzle camo , but with green , why ? :?
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_1096910_1096935_1372203234.jpg
« Last Edit: July 25, 2013, 06:31:06 PM by up1950s »

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2013, 06:49:37 PM »
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I'm holding out for a RTR AS-616 from somebody.  :)

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2013, 07:18:00 PM »
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I'm holding out for a RTR AS-616 from somebody.  :)

In "Oregon & Northwestern" paint, perhaps?...

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2013, 08:04:31 PM »
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On the Shapeways site there is a shot of it that kinda resembles USN dazzle camo , but with green , why ? :?
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_1096910_1096935_1372203234.jpg

I am pretty sure those are just different colors based of were the vertices are in the drawing in what looks to be Sketch Up. In Sketch Up, closed polygons are shaded and once you start messing with the vertices the shading becomes messed up.
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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2013, 08:19:28 PM »
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On the Shapeways site there is a shot of it that kinda resembles USN dazzle camo , but with green , why ? :?
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_1096910_1096935_1372203234.jpg

That could be signs of serious issues with the 3D model.  But even if so, it may not ultimately effect the printed model.

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2013, 08:44:28 PM »
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In "Oregon & Northwestern" paint, perhaps?...

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2013, 11:23:22 PM »
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But the Twin Cities, with so many more great railroads and a menagerie of paint schemes in the 60s, not to mention so many idealistic name passenger trains, is very intoxicating.  I just don't know that much about the actual place, having never visited - we just rarely left Packers territory when visiting the grandparents.

Here's a good place to start.  :)

http://magichammer.rrpicturearchives.net/archiveThumbs.aspx?id=21980

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2013, 08:49:59 AM »
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I'm glad you guys found my model!  This was a project I started a while ago after reading a few threads on Trainboard.  I originally intended to make this model modular - like atlas' or Kato's models, with a cab, hood, and sill fixture.  After a few test prints in that configuration, I decided to make it one piece because the sill and cab were just too flimsy in the FUD material.  After pointing this out on Trainboard, many of the contributors in the thread were still interested in a shell, even if it were just a starting point to a kit bashed model.  Because I model the Western Maryland, I had planed on modeling the four axle trucks with Alco trucks from Atlas, in a GP30/35 chassis.  I quickly discovered that the GP30/35 chassis is too tall.  I think it could work with some milling, which would also make DCC a challenge.  I never included grills or handrails on this model because they just don't print well.  I have had great success with 3D printed kits as multi-media kits - buy using brass wire for handrails, and photo etched parts for as many things as possible, they actually turn out quite nicely.  There are holes for the handrail stanchions, the grab irons, and many of the pilot details.  The grill areas are simply a recessed area in which I planed to insert a photo etched part at some point.  I hope its something that you guys are able to use, and I'm curious to see what you come up with.  I will stay in the loop on the forum, and try to improve the shell along the way!