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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #165 on: July 18, 2013, 02:30:41 PM »
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I would like a 34 ft 4 board wood gondola or a 36 ft wood boxcar that would have been built in the early 1900-1910 period. That would get me close enough to model some NH early equipment. Throw a small box on the gondola underframe and you would have a great 1890s boxcar. Road names out the wazoo then.

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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #166 on: July 18, 2013, 04:59:42 PM »
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I would like a 34 ft 4 board wood gondola or a 36 ft wood boxcar that would have been built in the early 1900-1910 period. That would get me close enough to model some NH early equipment. Throw a small box on the gondola underframe and you would have a great 1890s boxcar. Road names out the wazoo then.
I'd like a wooden hopper-bottom coal gon from that period too.
There were thousands of them; some lasted into the 1930's.
AFAIK, none have ever been made in N scale.

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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #167 on: July 18, 2013, 06:18:29 PM »
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Caboose are so particular to RRs that generic models don't cut it.  For instance, Bluford's Great Northern transfer caboose.  The prototype X178 was built on a VO1000 frame and ran on the unit's Baldwin trucks.  The Bluford model is, um, not adequate for the true GN fan.  There may not be enough of us for anyone to care, but that doesn't make the model any better of a representation.

IMO, while everyone wants injection molded versions of their road's cabeese, the vast selection makes caboose models better suited for etched brass or Shapeways makers where small runs with adequate proportion and detail can be had.

But they at least told you that in their documentation.  I bought one to support the cause for the model overall and none of the others worked for my layout.  It is a neat layout and when you are a CBQ man GN can be close enough!! :)
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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #168 on: July 18, 2013, 06:31:33 PM »
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Caboose are so particular to RRs that generic models don't cut it.  For instance, Bluford's Great Northern transfer caboose.  The prototype X178 was built on a VO1000 frame and ran on the unit's Baldwin trucks.  The Bluford model is, um, not adequate for the true GN fan.  There may not be enough of us for anyone to care, but that doesn't make the model any better of a representation.

Even if it was exact for the GN caboose, it's still a novelty.  Transfer cabooses operated out of big cities with large class yards, two things that are hardly ever modeled.

GN X178 looks to have operated out of Minneapolis.  I'm from there, and I've never seen or heard of a layout that modeled the GN in Minneapolis.

I got the CGW one knowing that it's not very close, but also knowing that I'm never going to build one because I don't really need one.

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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #169 on: July 18, 2013, 06:44:04 PM »
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Ok, I goofed and didn't make my point - new try  :scared:
How about retooling those 50' Boxcars? - Ad the low ladder ends of the 40' Boxcars, retool the doors to 10' and voilà, a perfect late 60s to ???? PS standard car



-and lots of other doors (e.g. 12' plug door are possible).

And of yes!!! an early 70's PS waffle car - MDC/Athearns are nice, but not good:




Or start from scratch - Atlas made little use of their 50' ACF car - DD, PSD, and tons of variations are quite easey to do. And, dreaming, an ACF waffle car.

I loved the old MT/Kadee line but better is the enemy of good - and the PS2 did proof that MT can fight good products with better models  - more please

Thanks

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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #170 on: July 18, 2013, 10:50:33 PM »
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Joe, How about 1950's era early Trailer-Train 50' and 75' TOFC's???? And appropriate trailers!!!!

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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #171 on: July 18, 2013, 10:56:18 PM »
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How about retooling those 50' Boxcars?

See Athearn/MDC.

Ad the low ladder ends of the 40' Boxcars, retool the doors to 10' and voilà, a perfect late 60s to ???? PS standard car

Forty-footers with 10-foot doors?  I'm not familiar.  Atlas recently announced the 40' PS1 w/8' door.

And of yes!!! an PS-waffle car - MDC/Athearns are nice, but not good

Isn't the ExactRail SOU waffle box a PS design?

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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #172 on: July 18, 2013, 11:26:26 PM »
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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #173 on: July 18, 2013, 11:58:48 PM »
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I realize this thread has been up for awhile but steel boxcars of the 1930's are tough to find. Take this guy for example.
Murphy ends, creco door, no tabs (because it's a pre 1932 AAR design). I've seen quite a few of these in pictures of NYC in the 1930's. This one has a build date of 1928.

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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #174 on: July 19, 2013, 12:12:40 AM »
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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #175 on: July 19, 2013, 05:41:18 PM »
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Looking forward to the single window heavyweight coaches.

I would second almost all of the heavyweight passenger car suggestions. I could definitely use some 8-1-2 sleepers, 10 section-lounges, more common rpo's, any baggage cars, even Pennsy B60's, SAL express boxcars, any Harriman heavyweights, rebuilt troop sleeper express cars (like Bill Denton's excellent shells, but with other door variations), and modernized heavyweights, too. I love the idea of replacement roof parts for arched roof cars, non-ac clerestory, etc. I could use some of those plain arch roofs like the Lowell Smith cars have to build some modernized Southern Ry heavyweight coaches, combines, and diners. Even two-tone gray paint for existing sleepers in pool service would be nice. 

For freight cars, I'd love to see some Seley hoppers and 1923 ARA XM-1 composite boxcars.

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