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Re: Low Side Gons of theOther kind
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2013, 12:28:43 AM »
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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2013, 11:35:58 PM »QuoteN&W G2, 1950s 24" "N&W" scheme:

http://spec.lib.vt.edu/imagebase/norfolksouthern/full/ns2457.jpeg
(the G2 appears to have drop bottom hardware)

N&W G1, 1950s 24" "N&W" scheme:

http://spec.lib.vt.edu/imagebase/norfolksouthern/full/ns2454.jpeg

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Re: Low Side Gons of theOther kind
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2013, 12:34:23 AM »
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The N&W Gons mentioned above have a 46' 0" inside length - compared to 41'6" on many of the others, so the list above is rather mixed. The G1 has an inside height of 3'.

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Re: Low Side Gons of theOther kind
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2013, 09:51:14 AM »
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In search of any prototype clone shots to this 12 panel low side gondola .






From here , not exact but http://www.srha.net/public/photos/catalog.asp?ID=0&EID=4&ESID=0&RRID=0&PID=0&CID=0


Adv Robbman N&W G6
From Here http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/selectdocs.php?index=rs&id=76
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Re: Low Side Gons of theOther kind
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2013, 10:29:38 AM »
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Re: Low Side Gons of theOther kind
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2013, 11:40:07 AM »
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These 12-panels are all N&W heritage it seems, other than the CSX car that has non-uniform rib spacing.  Are they all IL 45', and are there other roads that had them?

KCS had a few, but they seem longer:
http://www.trainweb.org/arkansastrains/railroad/kcsgon/KCS860/IMG27420.htm

Looks like a 65' mill gon to me.
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Re: Low Side Gons of theOther kind
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2013, 01:53:12 PM »
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Probably is.  Which means I may need another of your fine products . . .
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Re: Low Side Gons of theOther kind
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2013, 03:23:36 PM »
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Bethlehem Steel built these 14-panel SAL cars in the 1950s.  Did they build them for anyone else?
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Re: Low Side Gons of theOther kind
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2013, 07:18:37 PM »
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It doesn't matter to me which style is decided upon.  My only stipulation is that at least two roads had them (preferably from different eastern regions), and one of the roads must have been based in the southeast region of the United States.
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Re: Low Side Gons of theOther kind
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2013, 08:38:05 PM »
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I'd be more than happy with the ACL/MEC, I'll take two.

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Re: Low Side Gons of theOther kind
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2013, 09:36:11 PM »
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I will be happy in whatever Byron chooses , I'll take ten . I was just nervous that the MEC end question was going to nip the project in the bud , and as such I was scampering to find other spouts to nourish before all hope was lost .

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Re: Low Side Gons of theOther kind
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2013, 10:15:52 PM »
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Ten panel low side

NW  http://www.krunk.org/~joeshaw/pics/nw/mow-gons/nw528103mw-1.jpg
        Info on the N&W g1
         http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/selectdocs.php?index=rs&id=71

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/virginia_southern/6942142768/

The N&W G1 and the VGN G5 (N&W G25) are shared designs if I recall correctly. 46' inside length and 3' inner height. Sunshine made a kit for them in HO:
http://www.sunshinekits.com/sunimages/sun12b.pdf

There is a USRA 70 ton gondola that shares the 46' inner length but it is a somewhat different design.

N&W had another low side gon built in the 50s, class G6 (also 46' inside length):

http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=20397

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Re: Low Side Gons of theOther kind
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2013, 10:58:22 PM »
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These 12-panels are all N&W heritage it seems, other than the CSX car that has non-uniform rib spacing.  Are they all IL 45', and are there other roads that had them?

N&W G6 (a low-sided G5), 46' IL, many converted to coke container service, carbide container service, fleshing service, and wheel truing service.  All built by Roanoke Shops... you might check the Dereco roads (EL, D&H) as other owners (they did buy some Roanoke built G72 gons in the 70s)