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Re: Vermissa Valley - PRR 1960s
« Reply #120 on: April 15, 2013, 08:19:53 PM »
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John and I were discussing making cattails yesterday.  I did a test run, making a few tufts a few minutes ago

This one is Heki 2mm winter grass with Silfor 4mm late summer applied later.  Trying to capture them in spring.



This one is Heki 2mm winter grass with Silfor 4mm autumn applied second.  Trying to get a winter look for them.



They're still wet, so I cant attempt to paint some brown tips on the flowering spikey thingees (WTF are they called?) on the winter ones.  I might try applying the 4mm first to see if that makes a difference.  Also, I'm thinking 6mm might be better for the tall thingees or whatever.

Anybody out there got any ideas or suggestions?
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Re: Vermissa Valley - PRR 1960s
« Reply #121 on: April 15, 2013, 08:36:55 PM »
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Plastic rods and nailpolish, but those may be more of a summer cattail. The MR Scenery by the Seasons book has a chapter devoted to lily pads, pond scum, and cattails. I'll bring it next time.
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Re: Vermissa Valley - PRR 1960s
« Reply #122 on: April 15, 2013, 08:47:22 PM »
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Maybe I can chop up some of that WS horse hair stuff for a few longer spikes and use the grassinator.  If that works, I can shave George for huge supply of it.  I think he's the correct coloration for winter cattails.  I'm sure he'll shed enough soon for enough supply.  Never thought I'd be thinking of using dog hair for scenicing.

I didn't know that book existed.  Look forward to seeing it.
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Re: Vermissa Valley - PRR 1960s
« Reply #123 on: April 15, 2013, 10:28:12 PM »
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The Vermissa Valley was pleased to host a gathering of local a$$hats and SPFs today.  They are pictured here holding up a piece of ceremonial bacon.



From L to R: chevyconvertible, Hornwrecker, Lemosteam, and chicken45.  Photo taken by JoeyUboats (lurker).

Not to hijack the thread, but are any of you  :ashat:'s going to make it to the RailBQ?
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Re: Vermissa Valley - PRR 1960s
« Reply #124 on: April 16, 2013, 06:48:58 AM »
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Bob, I was thinking of dipping the cattail tips in glue then rolling it in your tobacco to make the brown top.  Add a little white tuft on top and go push the end into the brown grass tufts. 

Eric I know nothing of the RailBq at this poit, but as much as I would love to attend, I don't think I could manage to get it onto The Scheduler's books...   :(
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Re: Vermissa Valley - PRR 1960s
« Reply #125 on: April 16, 2013, 12:09:11 PM »
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John looks like a giant next to Bob!

Sadly, I won't be able to go. It's pretty too far for me in my current state of noob fatherhood. Plus, I already committed to being Darth Vader for 2 Toledo Mudhens games (May the 4th be with you, har har). Maybe I'll throw out the first pitch this year!

I also feel like I have to preemptively defend myself on my L1s. It wasn't in a state of completion at the time of those photographs.  :ashat:  I know it's not supposed to be glossy.
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Re: Vermissa Valley - PRR 1960s
« Reply #127 on: April 16, 2013, 12:55:15 PM »
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http://www.eurorailhobbies.com/erh_detail.asp?mn=15&ca=31&sc=N&stock=NO-14608

Thanks David, those look great for summer, but John is doing "in the bleak midwinter", and is probably going to want a few linear feet of them, so static grass is the way to go.   I measured the tufts today, and they only come in at 2 scale ft tall.  I'm going to cut some WS horse hair to about 5-6' for the seed spikes, and try gluing in individually for one tuft, then try using it with the grasssinator to see if it will work.  I'm thinking for early spring, making the midwinter ones with just a bit of 4mm green in them to show new growth.

I'm normal sized.  You guys are the freaks.
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Re: Vermissa Valley - PRR 1960s
« Reply #128 on: April 16, 2013, 01:14:30 PM »
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"in the bleak midwinter"

Holst. Nice. Nobody ever gets that reference when I make it.
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No, I said "Ed's Law."

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Re: Vermissa Valley - PRR 1960s
« Reply #129 on: April 16, 2013, 06:52:33 PM »
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Here are the test cattails.  I added the tall stuff in by hand and glue with a many 0000 brush, brown stuff is ground leaves passed through a tea strainer.



I used the XF ground leaves, still too coarse for this.  I'll have to grind some up in a mortar and pestle for the next test, which will all be done with the grassinator.  I also tried brown paint on the one without the seedheads, but the paint wouldn't stick to the WS horse hair.
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Re: Vermissa Valley - PRR 1960s
« Reply #130 on: April 16, 2013, 07:24:02 PM »
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Here's winter cattail take two, with leaves ground down to dust.



I think the glue needs to be diluted a bit, although it does make it look like the seed heads have been falling apart most of the winter.  I'll try the all static grass way later this evening.
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Re: Vermissa Valley - PRR 1960s
« Reply #131 on: April 16, 2013, 07:43:21 PM »
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Diggin that Bob!  I can just see a five hundred foot long ditch filled with those!
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Re: Vermissa Valley - PRR 1960s
« Reply #132 on: April 16, 2013, 08:05:45 PM »
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Diggin that Bob!  I can just see a five hundred foot long ditch filled with those!

I can picture you making that.

I tried the WS horse hair cut to about 1/2" in the grassinator, very few of them stood upright.  Either we need more power, which is never a bad thing, or try a synthetic like Silfor 6mm or longer if they make it... or you can add the horse hair in by hand if you''re feeling especially masochistic.  Better thee than me.
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Re: Vermissa Valley - PRR 1960s
« Reply #133 on: April 16, 2013, 09:45:36 PM »
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Enough with cattails.  Did a bit of work on the forest floor by the WBCRR yard.  Pulled up the trees (planted for  :ashat: gathering) and added some dark green foam and Heki olive leaves as well as different shades of dead leaves.  I wanted to add some wild flowers, but didn't have a suitable shade of blue.  I remembered I had a blue sponge, so I cut it up and ran it through the blender many times, and lots of sifting.  I got a shade that's pretty close to virginia bluebells.



Should lighten up a bit when the hair spray dries.  Hopes it will look like what I'm trying to depict.
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Re: Vermissa Valley - PRR 1960s
« Reply #134 on: April 16, 2013, 10:27:07 PM »
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Looks great Bob!

Whilst visiting, managed to take a few shots of my two kitbash faves one with Josh's L1s above:







My sincerest thanks to Bob for his hospitality, kindness and generosity.  Josh, Joey U-boats and Walt were also a pleasure.
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