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Re: Atlas PS-1 boxcars in hand! (INNER HEIGHT CLARIFICATION)
« Reply #90 on: December 14, 2012, 01:22:54 AM »
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I wondered how long it would take for this thread to turn into rivet-counting!  :trollface:
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Re: Atlas PS-1 boxcars in hand! (INNER HEIGHT CLARIFICATION)
« Reply #91 on: December 14, 2012, 09:22:52 AM »
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I wondered how long it would take for this thread to turn into rivet-counting!  :trollface:

Longer then I expected.  but I like all the visual comparisons with actual models.  Really helpful when folks take the time to do that.

Now if I could find some KCS PS-1's in anything other then MOW service between 1995 and 2005 that would be golden . . . .
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Re: Atlas PS-1 boxcars in hand! (INNER HEIGHT CLARIFICATION)
« Reply #92 on: December 17, 2012, 10:54:08 PM »
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I left the rivets on the end panel mostly because this is Rutland and who cares?  I did find a photo of one in Chicago on a Pennsy transfer in 1962, so I matched the poorly paint matched reweigh data and weathered per the photo.  The paint scheme seemed to be in pretty good condition, just dirty. 


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Re: Atlas PS-1 boxcars in hand! (INNER HEIGHT CLARIFICATION)
« Reply #93 on: December 17, 2012, 11:40:02 PM »
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I left the rivets on the end panel mostly because this is Rutland and who cares?  I did find a photo of one in Chicago on a Pennsy transfer in 1962, so I matched the poorly paint matched reweigh data and weathered per the photo.  The paint scheme seemed to be in pretty good condition, just dirty. 



Very nice Mike.

Does that photo show the Tack Boards on the ends in the high position?  I've made the generalization that every car with low door Tack Boards will also have low end Tack boards.

I just got my undecs today and I'm trying to figure out how to take them apart.  I think I'm going to need two cases of the 6' door version.  :)

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Re: Atlas PS-1 boxcars in hand! (INNER HEIGHT CLARIFICATION)
« Reply #94 on: December 18, 2012, 12:30:58 AM »
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Ok, you caught me.  I based this off a photo of a 200 series Rutland car... a later order.  So the photo doesn't help answer your question.

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Re: Atlas PS-1 boxcars in hand! (INNER HEIGHT CLARIFICATION)
« Reply #95 on: December 19, 2012, 01:30:21 AM »
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Another comparo:



Interestingly, the height difference is something I always noticed when comparing the ancient Atlas 40 footers to the MTL one - I always figured the Atlas box car was too short  :P


New Atlas PS1 on left, Atlas 40' kit (from way back!) in center, original release Kadee PS1 on right.

Wow, this has me looking at my entire Kadee/MTL box car fleet (even 50 footers), some of which I bought new back in the early 70s ...

I assume for some of the releases the side height is not as far off compared to prototype (or quasi proto)?

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Re: Atlas PS-1 boxcars in hand! (INNER HEIGHT CLARIFICATION)
« Reply #96 on: December 19, 2012, 07:24:42 AM »
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Interesting comparisons Mark.

The difference in roofwalk thickness is an eye-opener too. 

I've got many, many cars that will need to have their roofwalks replaced or the cars themselves.

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Re: Atlas PS-1 boxcars in hand! (INNER HEIGHT CLARIFICATION)
« Reply #97 on: December 19, 2012, 01:23:02 PM »
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Tracks are models too.  Weather that rail.   :D :trollface:
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Re: Atlas PS-1 boxcars in hand! (INNER HEIGHT CLARIFICATION)
« Reply #98 on: December 19, 2012, 03:47:35 PM »
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Another comparo:
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Interestingly, the height difference is something I always noticed when comparing the ancient Atlas 40 footers to the MTL one - I always figured the Atlas box car was too short  :P

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New Atlas PS1 on left, Atlas 40' kit (from way back!) in center, original release Kadee PS1 on right.

Wow, this has me looking at my entire Kadee/MTL box car fleet (even 50 footers), some of which I bought new back in the early 70s ...

I assume for some of the releases the side height is not as far off compared to prototype (or quasi proto)?

Mark


This is a very eye opening post. Thanks Mark!!

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Re: Atlas PS-1 boxcars in hand! (INNER HEIGHT CLARIFICATION)
« Reply #99 on: December 30, 2012, 11:25:30 AM »
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Sorry for the necro, but wanted to share some info that I found while browsing through a couple of books.

The B&M received 3 orders of PS1 40' boxcars.

1947 (#74000-74999) 7' Superior Door
1951 (#75000-75749) 7' Youngstown Door
1957 (#76000-76538) 8' Superior Door

The new Atlas model has the correct door (7' Youngstown) for the number series they used (#75000-75749), but it appears from pics on the web that the build date is stencilled 1947 rather than 1951.

Could someone verify that? Not that great of a problem, but just wanted to know.....
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Re: Atlas PS-1 boxcars in hand! (INNER HEIGHT CLARIFICATION)
« Reply #100 on: December 31, 2012, 09:51:37 AM »
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Tracks are models too.  Weather that rail.   :D :trollface:

Track in a photo booth is a prop, not a model!

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Re: Atlas PS-1 boxcars in hand! (INNER HEIGHT CLARIFICATION)
« Reply #101 on: December 31, 2012, 07:25:40 PM »
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Sorry for the necro, but wanted to share some info that I found while browsing through a couple of books.

The B&M received 3 orders of PS1 40' boxcars.

1947 (#74000-74999) 7' Superior Door
1951 (#75000-75749) 7' Youngstown Door
1957 (#76000-76538) 8' Superior Door

The new Atlas model has the correct door (7' Youngstown) for the number series they used (#75000-75749), but it appears from pics on the web that the build date is stencilled 1947 rather than 1951.

Could someone verify that? Not that great of a problem, but just wanted to know.....
Verified. I have both B&M 75000 series cars and both have BLT and NEW date of 9-47.
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Re: Atlas PS-1 boxcars in hand! (INNER HEIGHT CLARIFICATION)
« Reply #102 on: December 31, 2012, 07:31:06 PM »
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Verified. I have both B&M 75000 series cars and both have BLT and NEW date of 9-47.

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Re: Atlas PS-1 boxcars in hand! (INNER HEIGHT CLARIFICATION)
« Reply #103 on: January 01, 2013, 01:34:22 AM »
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Re: Atlas PS-1 boxcars in hand! (INNER HEIGHT CLARIFICATION)
« Reply #104 on: January 01, 2013, 01:55:16 AM »
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Verified. I have both B&M 75000 series cars and both have BLT and NEW date of 9-47.

Thanks Peteski, guess that one slipped through the cracks!  :D
Cheers,
Scott