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jpec

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Re: N scale City Terminal
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2017, 09:09:41 AM »
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Very cool...I  need to look for some of those Peco Settrack turnouts this weekend...

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Re: N scale City Terminal
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2017, 08:59:29 AM »
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Hi PiperguyUMD,
i was one of the lucky ones to find your N scale CNJ 1000 on Shapeways. It's my most precious piece of rolling stock on my layout - thanks for creating this great classic locomotive!
Meanwhile I also made good progress on the boxcar's home - the Bronx Terminal. Check it out in my gallery: http://www.harlemrivercrossways.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/bronx-terminal-layout/CNJBT-42.jpg. My model is a pretty prototypical representation of the CNJ Bronx Terminal without selective compression on a 4' x 3' board. 

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I like the way you proposed to extend your City Terminal and turn in into an L-or even U-shaped model. Did you pursue that idea? I think it is a very natural extension of the Bronx Terminal. As you know, CNJ added their extension on the other side of Third Avenue Bridge in 1929. Your added section is reminiscent of that extension. It also makes sense from a modeler's perspective as the operational capabilities of the circular freight yard with one locomotive doing the work and no additional industries are somewhat limited.

Andreas
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Re: N scale City Terminal
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2017, 08:42:46 PM »
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Andreas

Allow me to be pedantic. http://www.harlemrivercrossways.com/blog/  What a great blog

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Re: N scale City Terminal
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2017, 11:24:29 PM »
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Hi PiperguyUMD,
i was one of the lucky ones to find your N scale CNJ 1000 on Shapeways. It's my most precious piece of rolling stock on my layout - thanks for creating this great classic locomotive!
Meanwhile I also made good progress on the boxcar's home - the Bronx Terminal. Check it out in my gallery: http://www.harlemrivercrossways.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/bronx-terminal-layout/CNJBT-42.jpg. My model is a pretty prototypical representation of the CNJ Bronx Terminal without selective compression on a 4' x 3' board. 

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I like the way you proposed to extend your City Terminal and turn in into an L-or even U-shaped model. Did you pursue that idea? I think it is a very natural extension of the Bronx Terminal. As you know, CNJ added their extension on the other side of Third Avenue Bridge in 1929. Your added section is reminiscent of that extension. It also makes sense from a modeler's perspective as the operational capabilities of the circular freight yard with one locomotive doing the work and no additional industries are somewhat limited.

Andreas
http://www.harlemrivercrossways.com/blog/

Thats incredible!  I can't believe I didn't find your sight while I was researching the Bronx Terminal, great work! Regrettably I haven't done much at all to the layout. The spring semester through June was the busiest I've ever been.  Hopefully things will slow down in the next few months and I can get back on it.  I might add one more module but I'd like to get the first module to a decent level of completion before adding on.

Glad you like the CNJ 1000 kit!  Its so nice to see completed projects! A friend of mine has a small machine shop, he was able to remove most of the Bachmann 44 ton fuel tank.  Looks great but I will have to pack some lead somewhere!

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Re: N scale City Terminal
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2017, 03:53:39 AM »
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So what's the deal with Photobucket? Those annoying "upgrade" logos are taking over more and more shots on TRW. Why can't everybody on this site just boycott the damn place?  Something needs to be done ...
upshot is I've seen zero of the pics posted to this thread.

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Re: N scale City Terminal
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2017, 07:31:27 AM »
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Glad you like the CNJ 1000 kit!  Its so nice to see completed projects! A friend of mine has a small machine shop, he was able to remove most of the Bachmann 44 ton fuel tank.  Looks great but I will have to pack some lead somewhere!

Thanks. I look forward to seeing more from your City Terminal.
I've said it before and will say it again how great your boxcar body on the Bachmann T44 chassis is. Weight-wise it is a bit problematic, though, on a layout packed with turnouts tighter than #5. Also, I've been considering to replace the decoder by a TCS or ESU product that would make the loco running a bit smoother. And then I still might re-build it based on your improved underframe for the T44. Lots of details to care about - but that's what keeps us busy!

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Re: N scale City Terminal
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2017, 07:54:54 AM »
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The street on the far right will be pavement, but I think I will make the driveway to the freight house, as well as the lot inside the freight house cobblestone.  Has anyone use Monster Model Works old cobblestone sheets?


Sorry I didn't come across your blog earlier - but better a late reply than never. I have used MonsterModelWorks cobblestone sheets (as well as their sidewalk and broken asphalt) extensively on my layout and I love them. I haven't seen any other product that would create more authentic old cobblestone. Given the amount of sheets required for something like the CNJ Bronx Terminal they are a bit expensive but they are certainly worth the money. They are easy to cut and glue, and paint-brushing and weathering to give them a very specific appearance is always fun. I definitely can recommend them!

Andreas

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Re: N scale City Terminal
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2017, 08:03:07 PM »
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Re: N scale City Terminal
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2017, 08:45:29 PM »
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Whoa...saw these in HO...didn't know they had them for N. What are you using for the paving medium?

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Re: N scale City Terminal
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2017, 12:24:31 PM »
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For a different solution to cobblestone...

https://www.shapeways.com/product/DXCEBYC2Q/set-2x-stra-szlig-enbelag-walze-reihenverband-n-1-160?optionId=43296054


Hey thats cool!  I suppose you could use drywall spackle.  I would think something like this would very easy to blend into the mud that would be found all over a transfer yard!

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Re: N scale City Terminal
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2017, 10:45:26 PM »
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I've been using D.A.S. clay, it's available on ebay or some colors I've found at Michaels craft stores.. It air dries, but is workable until it dries, and can be wet with water to keep it workable..So for this has been my only experiment using it...:(I used it to line the roundhouse tracks with brick, I have not used the cobblestone version)






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Re: N scale City Terminal
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2017, 08:30:50 AM »
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Looks like a very creative use of the brick/cobblestone roller to me - I like it.
The problem with many of the cobblestone products is that they have a repeating pattern. In case of the Shapeways roller the pattern repeats every 3 inches. This will ultimately result in an artificial look when used for larger surfaces if not properly corrected through painting, weathering or other means to break up the patterns. Even the MonsterModelWorks cobblestone sheets are prone to patterns although they are based on actual photos.

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Re: N scale City Terminal
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2017, 10:20:24 AM »
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Repeating patterns?....You mean, like, cobblestone? ;)  :trollface:




Looks like a very creative use of the brick/cobblestone roller to me - I like it.
The problem with many of the cobblestone products is that they have a repeating pattern. In case of the Shapeways roller the pattern repeats every 3 inches. This will ultimately result in an artificial look when used for larger surfaces if not properly corrected through painting, weathering or other means to break up the patterns. Even the MonsterModelWorks cobblestone sheets are prone to patterns although they are based on actual photos.

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Actually, the clay behaves in such a way that repeating patterns aren't really noticeable. While what you're saying makes sense, it wasn't my personal experience with the product. Small pockets form, and each pass of the roller picks up/puts down tiny bits of clay along the way, looking like "damage". Any curve to the track will also distort the pattern. I was also able to start/stop the roller in basically any spot and it "blended" well enough that I can't tell. I did use the Not-for-rail roller to lower the clay near the rail so I could clean it using a bright boy.

I can understand how laser cut brick would look like a pattern, because it is exactly that. I did not find the clay to be repeating in any noticeable amount.. And once you weather it, it will look even more random....

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Re: N scale City Terminal
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2017, 04:01:32 PM »
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Even better if the imperfections of this method have the nice side-effect of removing such pattern. The laser-printed/engraved cobblestone sheets I'm using have a cycle every 14 stones or so. As I said, weathering can also help o make it looking random.