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New Bachmann Box Car
« on: December 22, 2011, 09:59:28 PM »
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I'm trying to figure out its prototype. I had communicated months ago with Bachmann about the strange PS1-like ends (http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,17569.0.html) and Jason was right there with me, but the Bach-man insisted it was patterned after a 1937 AAR car for which they had drawings. In a private message, a marketing department mucky muck advised me in somewhat stern terms that what was shown at the show where the car was announced was a preliminary model, and that the car would be updated to reflect the '37 car. In looking at the model on the Kleins website, it wasn't fixed.

I plan on picking up a NH car just for splits-and-squiggles but does anyone care to comment on the enigma's origins? Bussey, how's it qualify as a NH car?
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Re: New Bachmann Box Car
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2011, 10:52:54 PM »
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Heh...  Well this may be the foobiest foob that ever foobed, but if I find it for less than 10 bucks I may bite.

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Re: New Bachmann Box Car
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2011, 11:52:46 PM »
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Heh...  Well this may be the foobiest foob that ever foobed, but if I find it for less than 10 bucks I may bite.



Dear god that's hideous!   :facepalm: :ashat:
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Re: New Bachmann Box Car
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2011, 12:13:24 AM »
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I plan on picking up a NH car just for splits-and-squiggles but does anyone care to comment on the enigma's origins? Bussey, how's it qualify as a NH car?

It could be the Pullman-Standard version, but I've been waiting to see the model to compare it to prototype photos.  New Haven did have 1937 AARs, and many of them were sold, refurbished into the red-orange scheme and then leased back to the railroad.  So the scheme is legit.  I wish they had done the black car instead though, as they were more plentiful.

I'll pick a couple up.
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Re: New Bachmann Box Car
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2011, 12:56:32 AM »
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Ugh, now that I stare at it...  The white band should extend across the door.
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Re: New Bachmann Box Car
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2011, 08:26:48 AM »
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It could be the Pullman-Standard version, but I've been waiting to see the model to compare it to prototype photos.  New Haven did have 1937 AARs, and many of them were sold, refurbished into the red-orange scheme and then leased back to the railroad.  So the scheme is legit.  I wish they had done the black car instead though, as they were more plentiful.

I'll pick a couple up.

Looks like the NH cars had W ends, so even if we find a prototype for those P-S style PS-1 ends on this earlier car, they will have to be modified.

Don't forget to move those grab irons, don't know why they're floating off in space...
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Re: New Bachmann Box Car
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2011, 08:36:07 AM »
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Ugh, now that I stare at it...  The white band should extend across the door.
  :facepalm:

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Re: New Bachmann Box Car
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2011, 08:44:01 AM »
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When I preorderd for the shop, I didn't order any of the new boxcars from Bachmann. Boy am I glad I did that. For the money, the old Atlas Trainman cars are a much better option for the budget conscious or fleet builders.

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Re: New Bachmann Box Car
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2011, 08:53:15 AM »
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Hmmm, the more I look at it the more I'm thinking I may have to return this car before I take possession of it and just grab some NH decals and some MT cars and make my own.
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Re: New Bachmann Box Car
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2011, 12:32:20 PM »
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Mike:
Dear god that's hideous!   :facepalm: :ashat:
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I couldn't agree more.

I can't even look at it!  :lol:
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Re: New Bachmann Box Car
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2011, 12:43:10 PM »
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Separate ladders and operating doors on a Bachmann boxcar...  Interesting.  This is definitely little more than a fleet-builder, with a low price point, it could be a good one.  Is there a link that shows the other paint schemes?

Looks like they're using a thinner profile walkway, but they've mounted it a foot off the roof... :facepalm:

Dave, how hard can it be to mask a white line across the door...  Remember, a little bit of work on a cheap car can at least fill in a few blanks in the fleet.

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Re: New Bachmann Box Car
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2011, 12:48:11 PM »
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Dave, how hard can it be to mask a white line across the door...  Remember, a little bit of work on a cheap car can at least fill in a few blanks in the fleet.

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Not my point...  It just seems like Bachmann has had all kinds of issues with painting these things correctly, from the cabooses (wrong fonts, colors) to these boxcars.  Matching the white would be a challenge, but weathering could blend it.  One would also need to change the class markings as it's clearly not a straight X29...  Maybe one of the rebuilds, some of which received the Merchandise Service scheme.

Those ends are bothering me though.  Something doesn't look right.
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Re: New Bachmann Box Car
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2011, 12:58:27 PM »
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Looks like the NH cars had W ends, so even if we find a prototype for those P-S style PS-1 ends on this earlier car, they will have to be modified.
Don't forget to move those grab irons, don't know why they're floating off in space...

I don't have my references available to me at this moment, but NH did acquire their AAR boxcars from two builders, one of them being P-S, and the ends were different.  I thought, although I won't swear by it, that the P-S built cars had those ends.

Hmmm, the more I look at it the more I'm thinking I may have to return this car before I take possession of it and just grab some NH decals and some MT cars and make my own.

The MTL car is correct only for the IH 10'6" series, which is NH 33500-34499, and none of those were painted in New Image.  You're better off getting the InterMountain car and recreating the black or red New Image scheme on that model.  Ironically, MTL never has released an accurate NH road number for their model, as they used the builder's photo data for the smaller car.  The three cars in the DF scheme they did for BLW are correct for the model, but ironically they reused the dimensional data from the stock item which is wrong for the NH 34001-34020 series.
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Re: New Bachmann Box Car
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2011, 01:01:04 PM »
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Looks like they're using a thinner profile walkway, but they've mounted it a foot off the roof... :facepalm:

And they had to use the obsolete hole-and-tab mounting design.

lee, go to Kleins' website , they paint schemes are all there. The TH&B is nice, but the IMRC car done not long ago is more accurate. Same with the C&IM scheme. Why do they have to go and do small road billboard schemes already done by another manufacturer? Seems like, between the foobie model status and choice of schemes, they are begging for failure.

But those tank cars look schweet.
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Re: New Bachmann Box Car
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2011, 01:14:37 PM »
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DO NOT EVER take the word of a manufacturer that known errors on a preproduction model will be fixed on the production model. Pure H.S.

Prominent case in point the Athearn HO scale GP7/9.

Right now for good early 40' boxcars I will stick with MT and IMR.

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