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Rix corrugated bins
« on: February 08, 2011, 07:38:40 PM »
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I just noticed on Puddingtons submission on the weekend updates, that his corrugated bin has panels sticking out and not in alignment. I thought I was the only one who couldn't get mine to come out correctly! Is there some secret or technique to get them to glue up in a circle of the correct circumference ? It seems that I've butchered 3 kits so far and not one is circular. Any help would be greatly appreciated. <lv4142003>

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Re: Rix corrugated bins
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2011, 10:23:42 PM »
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I did the quonset hut, and it was a pain, because not only do you have to get everything aligned, you have to go back and cut off the bits that aren't supposed to be there.

It's a pretty clever design, but not for the faint of heart.  I used a liquid cement, which in my mind bonds a little more securely and a lot faster.  Your results may vary.

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Re: Rix corrugated bins
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2011, 08:29:43 AM »
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If there is a trick it was beyond me; that sucker was perhaps one of the most frustrating things I ever built. In the end I "gave up" and used it although I have two more in package, waiting for the "secret" to getting them right. The quanset hut went better for me because the less severe angle of the curves I think.....
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Re: Rix corrugated bins
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2011, 08:31:18 AM »
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I'm thinking the way to go is a chunk of PVC pipe and a precision milling machine...
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Re: Rix corrugated bins
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2011, 09:25:43 AM »
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If there is a trick it was beyond me; that sucker was perhaps one of the most frustrating things I ever built. In the end I "gave up" and used it although I have two more in package, waiting for the "secret" to getting them right. The quanset hut went better for me because the less severe angle of the curves I think.....

From a guy that scratches and bashes beautiful passenger cars like it was easy, that says alot! I was considering buying some (price keeps scaring me off, steep for what you get), but perhaps I'll hold off.

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Re: Rix corrugated bins
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2011, 09:56:08 AM »
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I've just sent Rick of RIX Products an email asking about the corrugated bin "issue". I probably should have sent it to him earlier but... Hopefully he'll address it and we'll find out how to make them as outstanding as they are supposed to be. Also I haven't looked real hard but is there a decal set out there that includes the blue "BROCK" in a circle logo? Thanks Joe Hueber <lv4142003>

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Re: Rix corrugated bins
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2011, 10:04:09 AM »
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I've built the HO version for a friend but haven't tackled the N scale yet. I have one to build for my layout but wasn't really dreading it because the HO went together fine. There was a little misallignment but I think it helped translate the look of the one sheet at a time constuction of these things.



I built them one ring at a time, alligning the corrigations as best I could, then stacked the rings. If I remember I did file/sand the butt end square to get a cleaner joint where it fit onto the underlap tab. Once the individual rings were dry, I sanded the bottom edge of each before stacking to make sure they were flat.

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Re: Rix corrugated bins
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2011, 10:11:16 AM »
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Looks like the radius is not the same on some . Find out what radius is needed to make a proper looking circle with the size segments . Then by deft bending or ridged form in the inside and maybe a heat gun reform the rest to that desired radius . Make sure each piece is the same length . An inner tube for gluing to and insuring trueness isn't a bad idea unless the wall thickness of each piece is different .


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Re: Rix corrugated bins
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2011, 11:32:46 AM »
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I've not built an HO one as yet, but I'd be happy as a lark if my N scale ones came out that nice and tight. UP1950, great ideas for fixes but  you shouldn't have to go to those lengths to get a good fit, after all, these aren't Walthers silos. Those need a joint backer along the entire joint line to keep things in line while the glue sets, the putty dries and you sand your fingers down. I like the idea of using an inner styrene tube to glue to, but what is the correct diameter you would need? Are the panels consistent in thickness? <lv4142003>

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Re: Rix corrugated bins
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2011, 07:39:58 PM »
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I've not built an HO one as yet, but I'd be happy as a lark if my N scale ones came out that nice and tight. UP1950, great ideas for fixes but  you shouldn't have to go to those lengths to get a good fit, after all, these aren't Walthers silos. Those need a joint backer along the entire joint line to keep things in line while the glue sets, the putty dries and you sand your fingers down. I like the idea of using an inner styrene tube to glue to, but what is the correct diameter you would need? Are the panels consistent in thickness? <lv4142003>

I don't have one , but I would test with what works out of the kit , then measure the ID and go on the hunt . Don't forget about the big box stores for a re-purpose of something . Even if it is smaller you could glue stripes vertically to make the thing bigger .


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Re: Rix corrugated bins
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2011, 12:04:19 AM »
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I suspect it's an issue of cheap aluminum tooling being overused and loosing some of its precision.
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Re: Rix corrugated bins
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2011, 04:19:39 PM »
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I did one of the Quonset huts and they are a royal pain.  Mine turned out looking decrepted as hell so I weathered it as an old rundown one.  Am now working on a Pikestuff Add-on Loading Dock.  Same company as Rix and it's overly complicated with the same problems as the bins and Qluonset hut - cut, sand, etc.  Honestly believe doing a building from scratch is easier.  That said, it's still someone fun.
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Re: Rix corrugated bins
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2011, 04:48:12 PM »
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The corrugations go the wrong way on the Rix quonset....

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Re: Rix corrugated bins
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2011, 08:00:12 PM »
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The corrugations go the wrong way on the Rix quonset....

Really?
 

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Re: Rix corrugated bins
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2011, 01:50:54 AM »
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The Quonset hut kit is simply the grain bin kit packaged with two ends for the hut, and as mentioned the extra material has to be cut away.  IMEX offers a ready made Quonset hut in N Scale.

I have assembled a number of the grain bins for eventual installation at Dawson Creek and I traced the irregularities in assembly to the angle of the joining surfaces between sections of the rings.  If these surfaces are glued flush, the resulting radius is not correct.  I eventually started gluing them flush at the outer edge and slightly apart at hte inner edge, which seemed to help.  That being said, I am not too unhappy with the results.  When I visited Dawson Creek I saw that these bins all show evidence of rings and panels bulging or bowing out due to the weight of the grain dumped in and sucked out, and evidence of said rings and panels being changed out as they deteriorate.




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