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Rich Reinhart

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Dear Walthers
« on: January 22, 2011, 09:18:18 AM »
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Please make this in N scale too...(let the email barrage begin)

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/933-3900

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Re: Dear Walthers
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2011, 09:20:04 AM »
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Looks like it could pass for a part of many numerous modern industries, and would be a great seller to me.

I wonder if they would be better off marketing something like that as the "Reilly-Vague" factory?

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Re: Dear Walthers
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2011, 09:23:30 AM »
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I was thinking the same thing, Asphalt roofing plant, brewery..all kinds of super neat stuff

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Re: Dear Walthers
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2011, 09:28:22 AM »
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TIL kraft paper is spelt with a 'k'.  :D

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Re: Dear Walthers
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2011, 09:52:24 AM »
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The kit looks great however, having spent most of my adult life in and around papermills across North America I always kinda shy away from the Walther's kits because they are just too small... a paper mill; with some notible exceptions is a HUGE complex of numerous buildings, often spanning many era's of styles and types of construction. Yes; there are some "mini" mills; most often urban mills that used recycled fibre for furnish that may be compact enough to fit into a Walthers style building ( my former employer had one in Mississauga, Ontario) but the vast number of mills, especially a kraft mill would be mammoth; you'd be able to use the Superior Paper buildings (buildingS) as a part of the complex but as a stand alone, to me anyway, they always look a little funny...........

Of course this is coming from a guy that was exposed to the various chemicals used in kraft paper making for over 25 years so it's possible I've just lost it completely............ ;D I think the kits are great but I'm just saying....
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Re: Dear Walthers
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2011, 10:12:08 AM »
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They could just use the HO model and rework the door and window openings down to N scale. That would be a little more appropriate for the size and feel?

Less tooling for Walthers, better building for N scale.
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Re: Dear Walthers
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2011, 10:53:25 AM »
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And, this is why Walthers keeps away from n-scale.

Yes, everybody knows the structures would be larger in real life.   But structure manufacturers have to find a good balance of "true to prototype" versus "model railroad friendly".  For those of you who want it bigger, you get all the n-scale details, and can either combine n-scale kits or N and HO to come up with a nice large structure.

But hey, keep panning everything Walthers does because you're not willing to adapt anything.   Geez.
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Re: Dear Walthers
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2011, 11:21:53 AM »
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And, this is why Walthers keeps away from n-scale.

Yes, everybody knows the structures would be larger in real life.   But structure manufacturers have to find a good balance of "true to prototype" versus "model railroad friendly".  For those of you who want it bigger, you get all the n-scale details, and can either combine n-scale kits or N and HO to come up with a nice large structure.

But hey, keep panning everything Walthers does because you're not willing to adapt anything.   Geez.

I'm not "panning" Walther's kit; I think it's a fine effort. My point is that it's really almost impossible or impractical to have a "kit" for a paper mill due to their huge size and the number and type of buildings that inhabit them. If you wanted to get a few kraft kits and a few of the original one and kitmingle them you'd have a fine starting place.

I wasn't bashing Walthers at all.
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Re: Dear Walthers
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2011, 12:06:03 PM »
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One observation I've made is that you never see the entire mill from any one perspective so a large portion of the complex can be "off stage"
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Re: Dear Walthers
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2011, 12:11:13 PM »
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And, this is why Walthers keeps away from n-scale.

But hey, keep panning everything Walthers does because you're not willing to adapt anything.   Geez.

I don't buy this. Walthers' marginalization of N scale has nothing to do with N scalers being hard to please. It is simply their business model and it's not "our" fault.

As for the kit, it looks like a slightly expanded version of the Kraft mill in the original Superior Paper kit. Hard to tell if it has the same type of siding. I find the tanks and piping to be a bit odd in their appearance, but please don't tell Walthers... I don't want to hurt their feelings.

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Re: Dear Walthers
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2011, 12:46:42 PM »
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Oh come on! Just build one! It's really not that hard..



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Re: Dear Walthers
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2011, 01:06:38 PM »
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Oh come on! Just build one! It's really not that hard..


You just need the stryene...

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Re: Dear Walthers
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2011, 01:50:45 PM »
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My mill on the Puddington Valley layout...





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Re: Dear Walthers
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2011, 02:32:59 PM »
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Oh come on! Just build one! It's really not that hard..



You just need the stryene...

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Re: Dear Walthers
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2011, 02:41:15 PM »
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They could just use the HO model and rework the door and window openings down to N scale. That would be a little more appropriate for the size and feel?

Less tooling for Walthers, better building for N scale.

This.

I have the Wally HO Power Plant on my N scale layout, actually sort of a 3 sided flat with an empty back to make it as big as possible.  I cover the doors with smaller structures and what not to hide them.  It wouldn't be hard to have an N scale recessed entry inside the bigger HO entry.  Or, in belly button terms, and "outie" would also be easy enough to craft.

I did something simiar with their Lauston Shipping flat.