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Re: What's behind hollow core door #3
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2011, 12:38:12 PM »
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Seeing the photos of a door being loaded into a car in the parking lot of a Home Depot are right out of an Ed K thread. ;D

Now show us the Christmas lights!

...while visions of a Volvo danced in their heads...   ;D

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Re: What's behind hollow core door #3
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2011, 01:13:33 PM »
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I like that old photo of the unit of plywood on the roof of a Jetta.
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Re: What's behind hollow core door #3
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2011, 03:10:09 PM »
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I think I'm the only one in Washington.  :D

I was in Oly, but germany now, Guess I would be the european a$$hat wannabe represenitive?  ;D ;D
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Re: What's behind hollow core door #3
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2011, 03:21:24 PM »
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I was in Oly, but germany now, Guess I would be the european a$$hat wannabe represenitive?  ;D ;D

I was in Oly (no comma needed) but (capitalization) Germany now, (no capitalization needed) guess I would be the (capitalization) European a$$hat wannabe (spelling) representative.  :o ;)
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Re: What's behind hollow core door #3
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2011, 05:05:20 PM »
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That's why I took that picture. At my daughter's house going through totes for
track and roadbed. Found the foam cutter and blue paint for divider. I need to
quit screwing around and build the door and support. Should I build an open
grid the door sits on, or build the support around the door, using the door as
the table top? Meaning= Legs and frame are atatched to the door?
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Re: What's behind hollow core door #3
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2011, 05:06:50 PM »
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I did the same thing with a 2006 Ford Focus.  I even moved the layout after built (with its legs off, of course) in the car.  Obviously, I won't want to do that once scenicked, though.  ;D

You probably don't want the folding table legs anyway.  I used them on my last HCD layout, and the layout was extremely shaky end to end.  Since my layout was placed against a wall on one end, it wasn't the end of the world.  The A&R layout, however, may not have that luxury, so I needed something more solid.  I built my legs out of 2"x2"s and 1"x2" braces.  Much better.  I believe that Dave Vollmer has said the same thing about the folding table legs under the Juniata Division.

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Dave can you email me pics of your leg assembly on The A&R?
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Re: What's behind hollow core door #3
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2011, 05:16:01 PM »
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Re: What's behind hollow core door #3
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2011, 05:21:53 PM »
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Semi-bright minds think a like - Just saw that pic David. But where's the HCD? Do we have different
versions of HCD's - I spend 27.00 on mine, it looks like a sliding closet door, 36x80, white and real
light, no holes for lock or knobs. Mine actually looks more solid, but will take more framing and
support.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2011, 05:24:06 PM by chuck geiger »
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Re: What's behind hollow core door #3
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2011, 05:43:52 PM »
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Let the Games Begin!

I wanted put legs like this under my layout...


But my wife had issues with that...

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I sure would not get much modeling done if my layout had legs like that.  Are there mountains to go with those legs?
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Re: What's behind hollow core door #3
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2011, 06:43:40 PM »
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Semi-bright minds think a like - Just saw that pic David. But where's the HCD? Do we have different
versions of HCD's - I spend 27.00 on mine, it looks like a sliding closet door, 36x80, white and real
light, no holes for lock or knobs. Mine actually looks more solid, but will take more framing and
support.

If I understand your question, look close at my picture that DKS posted, and you will see that the HCD is under one layer of 1" foam.  Don't be confused by the pressure treated 2"x2"s at each end which were used to make the "parallelodoor," i.e., I extended the ends of my layout slightly.  My HCD sounds the same as your door: blank (no drilling for hardware) and light (made possible by the "hollow" in HCD).  There is usually a cardboard honeycomb inside the door that gives structure to the veneer on each side, with a wood frame around the perimeter.

I glued and screwed two 1"x3"s lengthwise under the door.  They not only provide some stiffening to the door, but they also give me something to screw the legs to and provide cantilevered support for the extended ends.  You can just make out the ends of the 1"x3"s at the left end of the table in the photo.  I also hung a shelf for the DCC command station and power supply off these 1"x3"s.  I think (hope) that the triangulation in the legs and braces will also stiffen the door, so I have not built any other form of frame to support the door.  It's actually fairly sturdy.  If you need more pics, let me know.

Dave Foxx

EDIT: Chuck, I just came across your post in the "Atlas Curved Turnouts" thread, asking if my door is encased in a frame.  It's not.  The side of the door is visible in the picture above, under the layer of foam.  Again the framework at the end is an extension of the door and not for support of the door itself.  Hope this is clear.
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Re: What's behind hollow core door #3
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2011, 07:00:39 PM »
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I'm fairly certain that Dave's braces and leg arrangement is adequate for support and stiffening. The only thing I'd recommend in addition is sealing everything well with paint or varnish.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2011, 07:02:39 PM by David K. Smith »

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Re: What's behind hollow core door #3
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2011, 07:05:06 PM »
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I'm fairly certain that Dave's braces and leg arrangement is adequate for support and stiffening. The only thing I'd recommend in addition is sealing everything well with paint or varnish.

I absolutely agree with Mr. Smith.  I, however, am lazy, but I'll get around to it.  ;)  It will improve the looks anyway.

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Re: What's behind hollow core door #3
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2011, 07:22:17 PM »
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I took some pictures from down under and hope this will help, in case the description in my previous post fails.

You can see here that the door is not supported or encased by any frame, except for the 1"x3" stringers, which gave me a place to secure the legs, the diagonal bracing, and the shelf for the command system:


This shot shows the end (extension) better, which you should not have to do on your layout.  If I didn't have the extension, I would have no additional frame under the HCD other than the 1"x3" stringers, the legs, and diagonal bracing:


Hope this helps,
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Re: What's behind hollow core door #3
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2011, 07:41:27 PM »
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Re: What's behind hollow core door #3
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