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New Bachmann Peter Witt trolley is a winner
« on: January 04, 2011, 01:05:26 PM »
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Totally different than Bachmann trolleys of the past . Runs smooth , fairly slow , no high speed top end , traverses Kato crossover without hesitation , you can actually hear the wheel noise over the motor gear sound . I only have DC . N scale finally has a very good trolley . Bachmann listened and did good .
 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 




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Re: New Bachmann Peter Witt trolley is a winner
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2011, 01:18:20 PM »
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Thanks for the pix Ritchie - it looks really nice. 8)


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Re: New Bachmann Peter Witt trolley is a winner
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2011, 01:26:25 PM »
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Any chance you could get the truck centers, wheel base and wheel diameter?


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Re: New Bachmann Peter Witt trolley is a winner
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2011, 02:00:08 PM »
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Any chance you could get the truck centers, wheel base and wheel diameter?


Jason


Wheel tread diameter .195 ish .
Truck axel span .430 ish .
Truck to truck bolster span 1.715 ish .
Outside truck gear box cover to the other outside gear box cover 2.370 ish .
Inside truck gear box cover to other inside truck gear box cover .975 ish .
Length of truck gear box cover .685 ish .
Inside axle to inside axle 1.010 ish .
Outside axle to other outside axle 2.148 ish .
Outside body OL 3.460 ish .
Chassis width .606 ish .
Chassis length 3.295 ish .
« Last Edit: January 04, 2011, 03:54:29 PM by up1950s »


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Re: New Bachmann Peter Witt trolley is a winner
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2011, 02:05:31 PM »
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Thanks Richie, but is the right on the wheel diameter?  That's a 47" wheel.


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Re: New Bachmann Peter Witt trolley is a winner
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2011, 03:11:06 PM »
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gear ratio?

I recall the old one was about 12 to one

from the drawing I am guessing 20 to one.

oh, dimensions of the motor?
 I am hoping for smaller than the normal b-mann motor.

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Re: New Bachmann Peter Witt trolley is a winner
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2011, 03:21:57 PM »
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Looks promising Richie.

Any sign of cogging at low speeds ??

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Re: New Bachmann Peter Witt trolley is a winner
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2011, 03:55:46 PM »
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Thanks Richie, but is the right on the wheel diameter?  That's a 47" wheel.


Jason

Sorry , .0195 - corrected the post as well , thanks for the call out on that .


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Re: New Bachmann Peter Witt trolley is a winner
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2011, 04:01:06 PM »
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Looks promising Richie.

Any sign of cogging at low speeds ??



No detection of cogging , but because of the lightness the interruptions in continuity will stop it at extremely slow speeds of 10 SMPH or so .


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Re: New Bachmann Peter Witt trolley is a winner
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2011, 04:25:15 PM »
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gear ratio?

I recall the old one was about 12 to one

from the drawing I am guessing 20 to one.

oh, dimensions of the motor?
 I am hoping for smaller than the normal b-mann motor.

v

Motor to wheel ratio 18:1.
Motor is .400 wide .
Motor is .660 over outer faces of bearing blocks .
Motor case is .590 long .
Motor is .325 high .
Span of the outer edges of both flywheels is 1.000 .
Flywheel is .138 long .
Flywheel is .275 in diameter .

All above measurements are ( ish ,  + or - something as small as a mile )


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Re: New Bachmann Peter Witt trolley is a winner
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2011, 04:55:19 PM »
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the motor is about right for the recent b-mann motors.
I was kinda hoping the motor may be the same as the one in the tenwheeler.

at 10smph, cogging is unlikely, the gearing and flywheel will help there.
I am thinking a truck is not doing the pick-up thing.
we have seen the 44 tonner at those slower speeds.
this guy should get similar slow speeds.

is the decoder causing the higher starts and stops?
My heavy mountain skipped up to 5 smph.

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Re: New Bachmann Peter Witt trolley is a winner
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2011, 05:23:05 PM »
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Man that looks nice. Maybe they will redo the PCC trolley or even a Boeing LRV.
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Re: New Bachmann Peter Witt trolley is a winner
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2011, 08:05:01 PM »
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As much as we need trolleys like this in N, I can also see that mech being potentially useful for bashing into who knows what kind of interesting locomotive. Load it up with some decent weight, and it might smooth out the slow-speed performance. You've got to hand it to B'mann--they have their faults, obviously, but they are trying to fill some unmet needs.

Thanks for the review, Richie. You may have just sold another one.
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Re: New Bachmann Peter Witt trolley is a winner
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2011, 08:17:07 PM »
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I would like to see them redo their N scale gas-electric doodlebug.

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Re: New Bachmann Peter Witt trolley is a winner
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2011, 08:22:26 PM »
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Anyone know what prototype their doodlebug was based?