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Identify this (half of a) boxcar?
« on: August 13, 2010, 03:08:33 PM »
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I love Jim Sands photos. They're so chocked full of usable information for someone modeling the 60s and early 70s. In looking through some of his photos though, I came across a boxcar I can't identify and it seems an anomaly for that time period.

Take a look at this image:



Can anyone identify the ribbed, seemingly 40-footer, boxcar to the left of the Georgia Kaolin tank car. The photo's dated 1963 on the site's database but 1968 on the photo. Either way, steel outside rib box cars weren't hugely popular yet, that I am aware of, and it doesn't look like a GN car, who had some such designs by then. An SP car maybe? Anyone?
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Re: Identify this (half of a) boxcar?
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2010, 03:20:52 PM »
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That DF symbol reminds me of CGW for some reason.
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Re: Identify this (half of a) boxcar?
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2010, 03:23:27 PM »
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It's a 50 footer with the door wide open, not a 40 footer.

Door looks like an old Pullman-Standard.

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Re: Identify this (half of a) boxcar?
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2010, 03:47:10 PM »
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It looks to be a CGW PS 50'-6" XML series 10201-10300 with Evans DF2 loaders.  These cars were delivered 12-64 and most (all?) some cars were assigned to either General Mills at St Charles, IL, or the Waterloo RR agent at Cedar Rapids, IA.  


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Re: Identify this (half of a) boxcar?
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2010, 04:51:18 PM »
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So this is it...



Anyone know where I can find a pic of one with the original paint scheme?
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Re: Identify this (half of a) boxcar?
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2010, 05:03:24 PM »
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Greta! Thanks Chris!
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Re: Identify this (half of a) boxcar?
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2010, 05:09:01 PM »
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There is another picture on page 38 of the Morning Sun CGW Color Guide.

As a note, there was a second series 10301-10400 delivered 1-67 but without DF loaders.  Of course these had no running boards, low ladders and brake gear.

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Re: Identify this (half of a) boxcar?
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2010, 05:17:57 PM »
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That DF symbol reminds me of CGW for some reason.

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Re: Identify this (half of a) boxcar?
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2010, 06:40:38 PM »
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That DF symbol reminds me of CGW for some reason.

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Re: Identify this (half of a) boxcar?
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2010, 07:05:40 PM »
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That DF symbol reminds me of CGW for some reason.

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Re: Identify this (half of a) boxcar?
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2010, 07:17:05 PM »
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Re: Identify this (half of a) boxcar?
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2010, 09:31:27 PM »
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I love Jim Sands photos. They're so chocked full of usable information for someone modeling the 60s and early 70s. In looking through some of his photos though, I came across a boxcar I can't identify and it seems an anomaly for that time period.

Take a look at this image:



Can anyone identify the ribbed, seemingly 40-footer, boxcar to the left of the Georgia Kaolin tank car. The photo's dated 1963 on the site's database but 1968 on the photo. Either way, steel outside rib box cars weren't hugely popular yet, that I am aware of, and it doesn't look like a GN car, who had some such designs by then. An SP car maybe? Anyone?

Although this isn't one, Norfolk Southern (the original) rebuilt some 40' gondolas into outside ribbed boxcars like that in the mid '60s.
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Re: Identify this (half of a) boxcar?
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2010, 11:15:57 PM »
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Any pics of those available online Iain? They sound interesting and I am always looking for interesting rolling stock projects.
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Re: Identify this (half of a) boxcar?
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2010, 11:46:05 PM »
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Seaboard Air Line also rebuilt some 40 foot boxcars into outside rib cars with roof hatches for Kaolin loading. There was a nice article in the Nov/Dec 2007 N-Scale Railroading on this (http://www.nscalerailroadn.com/044/NSR044.html).

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