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Yes I do model Clinchfield but both Steve and I came to the conclusion long ago that its the rolling stock that YOU guys want that's important and not what we need for our personal layouts so we don't let that affect our project choices. CPAA? really? The original brown with the silver door?
Quote from: Ed Kapuscinski on August 13, 2010, 12:21:26 AMAlso, in regard to the NP centerbeam info. Id rather know when the 70' cars became common than when the first small group of cars were made.Define "common"? Kind of a McDonald's approach to history, isn't it? Over 1,000,000 sold? They became common sometime after NP introduced them. Boom. There ya' are. Are we going to add when box cars became common? Tank cars? Flat cars?
Also, in regard to the NP centerbeam info. Id rather know when the 70' cars became common than when the first small group of cars were made.
Quote from: Bluford Craig on August 13, 2010, 11:05:21 AMAs for Algoma Central, WC did buy them but my impression was that it remained "Algoma Central Railway" until the purchase by CN. Is that not the case? Did they begin to paint AC engines for WC, because that should definitely be mentioned on the timeline. When WC took over in February 1995, all the AC diesels were immediately renumbered and had WC emblems placed on the nose and rear. Eventually they were all repainted into WC colours.The exception is the AC F-units. They were aquired in 1995 and put into service _after_ the WC takeover. These were fully intended for the passenger trains and repainted into an AC scheme that matched the ex-VIA/CN passenger cars that had been acquired starting in 1992.
As for Algoma Central, WC did buy them but my impression was that it remained "Algoma Central Railway" until the purchase by CN. Is that not the case? Did they begin to paint AC engines for WC, because that should definitely be mentioned on the timeline.
For the purpose of this list, I'd love to see the Kauss-Maffei locomotives ignored. I get the impression it's not supposed to be a comprehensive list of railroad history, but one that is targeted towards modelers trying to figure out the eras of things. For example, now I know that if I were to model the 70s, I had better put nose ladders on my Fs.But by pointing out NP having the first centerbeam car in 69, it doesn't help the guy looking at it on his iPhone while at MBK and trying to figure out if he'd too far off getting that bargain prices RC 3 pack of TTX centerbeams. THAT seems to be the point of this list, unless I'm incorrect.
Okay,Just added to 1966, "Early centerbeam flats appear by the hundreds" with a link to that photo. If they were already in the January 67 ORER than they were definitely around at least in late 66. Addition will appear in the next upload of the site.Thanks,Craigwww.bluford-shops.com
My assumption is that the NP cars were the first or one of the first that was designed from the ground up using the center beam as part of the structure of the car as opposed to modifying an existing car and can maybe be noted for that. This would also allow for the flats to increase in length.
The example you provided, while technically a centerbeam design, is a far cry from today's design and it might be misleading to imply such cars were available so early.
Quote from: Ed Kapuscinski on August 13, 2010, 12:21:26 AMYou also missed CR being created, April 1st 76.He didn't, it's there under 1976, far right, top of page. It was the first thing I checked! ;D
You also missed CR being created, April 1st 76.
As for Algoma Central, WC did buy them but my impression was that it remained "Algoma Central Railway" until the purchase by CN. Is that not the case? Did they begin to paint AC engines for WC, because that should definitely be mentioned on the timeline. Craigwww.bluford-shops.com